Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Importing what are essentially slaves for cheap labour that also require state support to house themselves.

What a system.

I believe they’re from the CSO Q3 report

Dan O’Brien is chief economist at the Institute of International and European affairs and a lecturer at UCD - he’d be very careful about the veracity of figures he’s publicly analysing, his career depends on it

That’s not what it’s saying

It’s saying that of the net increase of total employment, 97% of that increase was comprised of Non EU people

People retiring or emigrating and having their vacant positions filled wouldn’t come into that and that’s where the graduates you mention will be accounted for

Did you read what I said?

Do you understand what “net increase” means in this context?

Mmyeah see by what you’re saying it really appears that you don’t understand at all

If by “Ukrainians have integrated well here” you mean they aren’t causing a violence like some asylum seekers, then you are right. But they are extremely entitled and demanding for any benefits that are due to them. Even those who work and earn well, even those who are actually wealthy (many of them do have money). Poland offered them generous benefits in the beginning, then cut it down drastically and insisted those who can work, should work. So they started benefit shopping in other parts of Europe. I think EU made a huge mistake by giving them a free pass in unlimited and uncontrolled movement between EU countries. Some restrictions should have remained. Those who escaped Ukraine at the start of the war were genuine refugees, those who emigrated a year or two after that and moved between different countries are looking for a better life and any benefits they can still get. The solution for that is the same as for the floods of asylum seekers - cut the benefits to scraps, make it unattractive to come here, and they will all deport themselves.

No chance of Trumps "peace" deal being accepted by Ukraine.

Japan has sadly gone down the root of introducing MENA and other Asian migration into the country within the last decade.

Islam is now the fast growing religion in Japan for example…

Whatever international law does or doesnt say, I think that if someones life is threatened including by war, that person should be given refuge - somewhere (not necessarily Ireland). Sending someone back to their deaths is as far as I am concerned out of the question.

I heard a government TD (not sure which one - she had a Northern accent) say that one of the reasons for the initially generous system for Ukrainians is that we were not contributing with weapons.

The fact that Lviv was hit shows nowhere is safe.

Its also for me at least about opposing Russian imperialism, remembering our opposition to British imperialism. We need to show solidarity. I think we have done. But if peace returns many will go home. But Putin has a strategyof preventing stable democracies on his borders as he sees democracy as a threat to his regime.

I don't understand the hand wringing over how we secure the border. These people aren't parachuting into the north or coming across the Irish Sea in canoes before slipping over the border. Get a deal in place with the British to put proper checks in place in ports and airports. Its in everybody's interests to turn people back as soon as possible.