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Milk Price III

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭kk.man


    In Tirlan Ballyragget it was asked how many work there, answer no one works.

    Anyway in other news dairy going to to dump cull cows on us beef farmers thus factories going to have a field day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Their isnt a huge glut of cows on dairy farms, heifer numbers coming through are on the floor, unless lads are going to cut herd size, i wouldnt be overly worried



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Probably not here but in the UK it's happening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Its headcount would be my issue, i have no issue with a co-op investing in r and d, paying good wages to secure the right people, but when you see how poorly tirlains product mix must be to be leading the milk price cuts, obviously the above is adding any to much value to our milk....

    5 cent a litre been needed just to process our milk in wages, not including transportation costs which are owner drivers in the main is to high, when their looks like their is zero value added from the r and d departments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,300 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    I didn’t realise so many are living from milk cheque to milk cheque.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Autumn milk cheques are ment to be your profit for the year, with a chunk set aside to cashflow the winter/early spring months...

    In all likelihood 30 cent base is optimistic if your a tirlain/dairygold supplier for next year, with where variable costs have risen to since the last time we expirenced a base price like the above for a full season, unless you can live of thin air, the maths dont work, 30 cent in 2026 inflation adjusted is a base price of 20 cent in 2018/19



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I woukd not disagree that head count and task managment is an issue. Only looking at Co-op stores do they need to reorganise staffing levels, opening hours and working days. With part time farming now Co-op stores should be open at least until 2pm Saturday( actually dairygold do that) and consider closing Mondays. Should opening hours be 9-5.30 rather than 8.30 to 5pm.

    Staffing levels during the week are probably too much. Many older people look for part time work should the emphasis be to have one ir more part time employees towards weekends

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    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    they are facing having to dump milk in the springtime with certian milk buyers

    they get absolutely kicked around the place by milk processors in a falling market



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭yewdairy


    No knowledge of coops in the south but our coop has the name of not been a great payer to staff and seems to lose staff to other companies. looking at staff cost I don't see how it will make much difference to milk price. Management should be challenged to make The coop as efficient as possible but, 1 cent a litre for tirlan is 30 million, very difficult for any coop to meaningful support milk price.

    The markets have turned against us, butter was down Again in gdt yesterday, it will be a very bumpy few months. Would hope that this milk price collapse might lead to better cooperation between the coops. And the stupidity of tirlan competing against oruna in America might end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭visatorro


    You'd be amazed. I wouldn't like to be a merchant or contractor next year.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    And call me naive if you want, but the unfairness of it all has an effect.

    It's just plain wrong that the farmer is kicked out into the rain while everyone else stands inside looking out at him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Maybe but it part of the risk of being a sole trader dealing with a perishable product. Why do you think us stupid beef finishers insist on payment on the day or within a week anyway. For all of LG faults I can collect my cheque for cattle at the factory in the evening after I drop my cattle off that morning

    A lot of dairy farmers have left themselves exposed by the nature of the way they running there business at the edge of total efficiency...…or what they think is total efficiency. They never read the bible the 7 good fat years and the 7 thin lean years when you better have reserves coming into them. In Australia they have droughts to contend with as well.

    The nature of the business is cyclical we just have to live with that unless you are a poor finisher who just works off his margin. The suckler and dairy farmers are winning ahead of us this year but ce la vie

    Slava Ukrainii



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