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  • 12-11-2025 08:55AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7


    Hi all.

    I am looking for a used automatic compact car, around 15000/18000 EUR, not older than 2018, and I am far from sure about what to buy. We don't drive long distances, it'll be mainly for school run, shopping and maybe some trip to mainland Europe every couple of years, so petrol seems to be the best choice, although we wouldn't mind diesel.

    The options we are considering are these:

    • Volvo V40. Seems reliable and spacious enough, but the majority of what I can find is Japan import, and Diesel. Being a car built in Europe, probably no issue with insurance, but not sure how much I can rely on milage and overall status of the vehicle. S60 may also be a good choice.
    • Renault Megane (hatchback, saloon or estate). Not many automatic units for sale. A family member has one (1.5 diesel) and is quite happy with the car.
    • Seat Ateca/Skoda Karoq. We don't like SUVs very much, but by looking at the market we may need to get one of these. Not fans of VAG group either, after the dieselgate years ago, and the issues with the DSG transmissions that some friend has suffered in his Golf.
    • Honda Civic. I have read that 1.0 petrol are something to stay away from, also the CVT transmission (at least Toyota's) is a not something we like at all.

    Toyota are too boring to drive for us, discarded.

    Would appreciate some suggestion, thank you very much beforehand.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    That's a very strange shortlist. Put your criteria into DoneDeal using their filters and see what other options are available



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    School runs and shopping trips will kill a diesel - and your diesel will be killing everyone else while you're doing it.

    What about an EV? Plenty in the 15-18K band that would give you more range than you'd need.

    Mainland Europe is also better served than Ireland for charging stations, so you'd have even less reason to be anxious about anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The V40 is basically a Mk3 Ford Focus underneath. The automatic gearbox in them is the same unreliable PowerShift too. Best avoid them as you will inevitably have to replace that gearbox when it fails which will not be cheap.

    From the type of driving you are describing I don't see why you would be looking at diesel cars at all. They don't like short journeys and such driving won't won't get you superior mpg from either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭monseiur


    Would you consider a Skoda Octavia, there's a few low mileage one's on Done Deal withing your budget and age. The 1 Litre ones seem a little underpowered for the size of the car but others on here may be more knowledgeable on this issue and be able to advise you accordingly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭almostover


    Honda fit hybrid has decent power and a dual clutch gearbox. Not sure what those gearboxes are like reliability wise but Hondas are normally uber reliable.

    A3 1.4 auto with what i think is the DSG 7 gearbox. Nice to drive but can develop issues with mileage. If cared for they are nice.

    Nothing wrong with a Golf, same as the A3 but a higher spec on this one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 faucet


    The list above was made after searching several times in DoneDeal and other portals, it is what we think can suit from what we find available.

    Considering what we'll use the car for, petrol seems to be the best option for us. We do not like EVs @MojoMaker, those are out of the picture for us. We know these may be the most suitable for this kind of trips, but we're not ready for EVs yet.

    @bazz26 that info regarding V40s is quite useful. I wasn't aware at all that V40s share components with Ford, that's a big concern for me, thanks! I guess that reduces the list even more.

    We've been looking at Octavias as well @monseiur. They're VAG, so it's not our preferred option. A friend of us has had to replace a DSG gearbox shortly after buying an automatic VAG and, besides our opinion of VAG after the Diesel gate, we are trying to avoid VAG, but we may need to change our mind here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Mazda 3:
    2019 Mazda Mazda3 1.5 Petrol from Evra Motors - CarsIreland.ie

    Petrol Mazdas are very reliable. I don't think the autos give much trouble either. They are very nice to drive too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    What don't you like/are nervous about EVs @faucet?

    There is a lot of FUD out there that is distorting the message around electric cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    I think you'd be mad not to go EV. You would get such a better car for the money and the running costs would be minuscule



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    I am interested in electric, what EV could i get for 15-18k that would have a good battery with 5-7 years of driving left in it. Hyundai Inster and Dacia Spring are too small, I'm a looking for an Auris size vehicle



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭caesar


    😆 I read this and was like "did this person see my mums car on DD before they wrote their post". You're requirements are what I wrote as "Ideal daily use" minus the trips to Europe part haha.

    Like someone else mentioned, your shortlist doesn't seem to square with the requirements you mentioned. Also, for trips - a roofbox might be worth a shout. My bro did that instead of going bigger.

    That was early DSGs. These issues were sorted by the mid 2010s and for some models / configurations earlier than that. I love DSGs for everyday cars.

    I'm pretty forensic when I'm looking at car options and things to watch out for mechanically. My general approach is you've got to drill down to know whether certain things are an issue or not for a given configuration of a car. Ruling out all VAG or assuming another marques whole lineup is on point can lead you away from finding the car that really fits your needs.

    Buying right is tricky, especially when you land on what you're after - but then specs, service histories (lack of!) etc. can thin out the options massively.

    For the years you're looking at, on VAGs there is a gear-lever sensor that needs doing at some point. The fix is relatively simple. But worth mentioning some mechanics turn the fix for it into a bigger job that it needs to be, but either way the gearbox doesn't need replacing.

    ***

    As an aside, it's wild to me how bloated some modern cars have got - especially hatchbacks. Have you ever seen that shot of mid 90s BMW e36 park beside the newer Corsa. It's hilarious 🤣

    I know a lot of it has to do with added safety and features, but most people would be better off buying the next smaller option in a brands line up - assuming they want to go for the same sort of car again. So anyone with say an early 2010s Astra would be as well buying a Corsa from a size / space standpoint. And similarly - A3 to A1, Golf to Polo etc.


    Edit: turns out someone posted about this the other day: A very interesting piece here on how car sizes have grown over the last 60 years

    Post edited by caesar on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Head over to the EV forum and you'll get recommendations there 👍️

    The reference to 5-7 years is an unusual question. Any modern EV - once you look beyond the OG Nissan Leaf - will have multiples of that life left in it. EVs likely to last holistically just as long as a comparable petrol, with less overall issues.

    Tesla batteries for example are rated for 30+ years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    Oh wow, I thought that ev batteries were in decline once they hit 6 years +. Tesla at 30 years is incredible. Thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭yagan


    A post 2015 Suzuki Vitara is made in Europe so no problem getting parts.

    It's actually surprising compact, probably more accurate to call it a compact SUV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭monseiur


    ………agree with above, and if you buy new it comes with a 10 year warranty - something not to be sniffed at !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭yagan


    I changed from a typical manual diesel to a petrol auto vitara and zero regrets. Most driving now is local and it's perfect. I never liked the SUV trend but the vitara has a smaller parking footprint on my old diesel sedan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 faucet


    Polo/Clio/Ibiza size is definitely too small.

    Will take a look to Vitaras, although I have the feeling that it may also be a bit too small for us. We can live with it no doubt, but we are used to the next segment (Golf, Megane, Octavia, etc).

    @caesar my friend's Golf is a 2015 car, DSG had to be replaced. I am not so sure it was a 2010 issue only. Need to research a bit more about those gearboxes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    They are usually fine, just change the gearbox oil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,970 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Pay no attention that that "rated for 30+ years" propaganda from EV zealots trying to shoehorn an EV suggestion into every thread. Easiest thing in the world to spew out comments like that when it is other people's money that is at stake. Actually despicable behaviour, their purpose in threads like this is not to assist you but to promote their own ideology and give meaning to their own lives.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭User1998




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,970 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    It's far from obvious. As he is doing Fcuk all mileage, fuel savings with an EV are going to be small which is the main point of an EV. As usual in threads like this, zealots have jumped in without asking key questions about the OPs home charging or the condition of the wiring in his house to accept a charger. And we can see the way concerns about battery life and degradation get dismissed with propaganda about 30 year battery projections which the OP has swallowed. That is the main reason I responded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 faucet


    What is obvious for you may not be for others. We do not like EVs, and we won't get an EV. Your input is appreciated, but we won't change our mind regarding EVs.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,530 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Buying a car with criteria to include a once every couple of years holiday seems like madness to me; would you not consider hiring for those holidays every few years rather than skewing your car choice for it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,792 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    You probably should have said that then? Nobody here can read your mind.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,530 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    S/he did say that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,825 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The number of people driving 30 yrs old cars is tiny. Getting all bent out of shape because of that comment is ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,825 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Some people like to take their cars on holiday. Each to their own .

    In a thread where there's a litany of known issues mentioned of common faults and reliability issues with auto gear boxes wet belts, and short journeys diesel. It's a bit ironic to ignore all that.

    Fuel saving isn't the main point of an EV. It's only one advantage. Arguably it's emissions. For me though EVs are less complex and don't suffer from these reliability issues. It's actually a better choice for lots of short journeys. Which is exactly why I bought one for lots short journeys. Yes they can have expensive failures but then so can ICE. I wouldn't buy any modern car EV or ICE without a good warranty.

    But if someone doesn't want an EV not much point suggesting them. Though it's a discussion forum and the whole point is to have a discussion..

    The old adages for reliability is go Japanese. Toyotas with a good warranty. They at least honour their warranties better than many other manufacturers.

    Dunno if the op is looking for two people or a family. So no idea what size they are looking for.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,530 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Some people

    not sure if the rest of your reply got swallowed!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,825 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Lol now corrected.



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