Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

All is going to plan

Should make the job of naval drones a lil bit easier

Your entire post genuinely looks as if it's straight from TASS, the amount of utter BS in it is baffling.

Anyone claiming Russia has weapons that are the equal of Western weapons is either a liar or an idiot. The main advantage Russia has is that is has more of everything. The fact their tanks and IFVs tend to blow up at the first hit from a drone when Leopards for example take several hits to be disabled (they don't get blown sky-high either) is telling enough. Western material is superior, the problem is that Ukraine isn't getting enough of it.

As for casualties: There is nothing to indicate Ukraine is taking more casualties than Russia, on the contrary: All numbers point that Russia is losing far more men than Ukraine, although they have more to use.

Ukraine has to kidnap people from the street ? More nonsense. Russia emptied its' prisons and sent its' poor people into this war with lies of money and freedom. You're making it sound as if Russians are lining up to volunteer to defend the motherland. In reality they are resorting to having to lie to people from abroad (poor people from Africa, for example) and then tricking them into contracts to fight in Ukraine.

Everyone knows Ukraine is on the backfoot and it's a defensive war for them, that doesn't change the fact Russia is suffering tremendously for only small gains,

more wunderwaffle as per previous ‘concerned’ ‘analysis’ shown up by other posters on here.

No major offensive?? What is this… 1918?? You want non-stop storming of trenches??

You conveniently ignored the systematic destruction and targeting by UAF of Russian oil facilities, air defence and air attack that has the mighty Russia fighting like a rabble equipped by North Korea and enabled by Chinese economic assistance.

Spare us all the pseudo intellectualism. It’s very transparent

I don’t even bother read their post. It is a load of sentences which are « their » opinion backed up with nothing at all.

I'd argue that if the preservation of human life is the top priority, then clearly a negotiated peace is better than a continuation of the war. Ultimately those who oppose negotiations and prefer a continuation of the conflict have something that they consider a higher priority (the dubious concept of a NATO open door policy?) than the preservation of human life - Ukrainian or otherwise. I'm arguing that a negotiated settlement is in the best interests of Ukrainians rather than fighting on to the last Ukrainian. As I pointed out, Zelensky himself at one point recognised there are those who would be okay with seeing Ukraine destroyed and Ukrainians killed if it meant harming Russia. That is not my position.

As for the Budapest Memorandums (I presume you're pointing to them) I get it is a common NAFO propaganda trope, but it is fantasy. When Ukraine separated from the USSR, it declared itself a non-nuclear (and neutral) state. The nuclear weapons deployed on its territory were legacy Soviet deployments loyal to Moscow, same as the nukes in Belarus and Kazakhstan, and units in question all entirely transferred allegiance to Russia immediately. At no point were they Ukrainian nukes, and at no point did the Ukrainians have any control over the weapons.

The Budapest Memorandums were not international treaties, simply memos signed by Russia, UK and USA with Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan respectively. All the signatories (including the US and the UK) promised not to violate the political sovereignty of the states, or economically coerce them or use military force against them except in self defence or otherwise under UN charter. The US breached that promise when it passed economic sanctions against Belarus in 2006. When Belarus protested, the US said the Budapest Memorandums were worthless. The US and UK again breached the Budapest Memorandum when they backed a violent coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2013-14. So by 2014 at the latest, the US and UK had already ripped up the Budapest memos.

Ironically, Russia may not actually be in technical breach of the Budapest Memo with Ukraine. It only promised not to use military force except in self defence, including collective self defence. This might explain why the Russians went to such weird efforts to in the space of 72 hours recognise the Donbass republics, sign a collective defence treaty with them, and then invoke collective self defence as the basis for their 2022 action. Just to try to somehow strictly maintain a position that the memo was not being breached in the letter, whatever about the spirit.

Looks like Pebbles has been struggling under the constant bombardment of truth in here and has send an sos back to Orwell Road for some backup and right on queue… dust arrives…

Anyways lads… can yea at least agree that killing sleeping babies is a bit of a sh1tty thing to do???

No, whatever else might be said about Yanukovych he was the democratically elected leader of Ukraine, winning the election in 2010. And his democratically elected government was violently overthrown with - at the very least - US approval.

One of the maddest things i've read on boards….and thats saying something

I see German Chancellor Merz has told Zelenskyy to stop the young Ukrainians leaving the country, I guess the Germans are wondering why they are expected to pay for the defence of the country if the younger population is not prepared to do so.

They don't necessarily have to end up in the front line as there must be plenty to do in logisitcs, infrastructure, munitions factories etc, same applies to those living in Ireland in fairness

Ive heard one justification for the liberalisation of the emigration law is that this way, people may wait later to emigrate, as young men were emigrating illegally.

Of course at least 900,000 men emigrated from Russia during the first mobilisation so its not all one way. While 4.5 million Ukrainians are living in the EU, the context is different, as Russia is flattening entire cities, something Ukraine has never done including in the 2014 conflict in Donbass. The Donetsk stadium for example is still intact and has been shown during this war on social media.

Russia recently signed a deal with India to encourage labour migration to Russia. Thats a sure sign of labour shortages caused by the war. Deals like this are shameful. It means Russia can send its men to the invasion and occupation of Ukraine, while migrants replace their labour in the workplace.

India has zero interest in the concept of supporting democracy in foreign policy.

Breaking news. Russia makes a move into Myronohrad to try to separate the Ukrainian forces in the city North-South.