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Five years on, what did COVID teach you?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭techman1


    Asia countries that have had warning systems for decades were more prepared for what had to be done,

    Really, the wuhan early warning system in China wasn't too effective was it? The authorities there were hiding the fact that they had a new contagious flu like virus and consequently some infected people were able to leave China and travel to Europe especially bergamo in Italy. China never allowed an international team to investigate the origins of the covid virus. It was only international scientists that happened to be working in the bio lab in China that leaked the dna code of the virus to the outside world. The Chinese authorities and scientists were all trying to keep it secret



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭bladespin


    You did say it had caused side effects for a small number when, in fact, it casued side effects for most, probably immune response granted but still an uncomfortable side effect (the manufacturerers described all those symptoms as 'side effects' in their own literature):

    "It caused side effects in a small number of people, side effects due to immune response which is to be expected with any vaccien or virus and at a rate and severity far less than when triggered by infection"

    Soiunds like that p[oster wasn't the onlu one posting bullshit.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,811 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Sure there was gombeens insisting Ireland had the most severe and longest lasting lockdowns in the world.

    And genuinely claiming that Evil Tony was never ever going to allow pubs to open and only allow evil restaurants open.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    This type of thinking really grinds my gears.

    The point of a lockdown is to stop people, en masse, coming into contact with each other and spreading a virus.

    A lot of the cRItICAL tHiNkER types can't seem to grasp this. 'I didn't adhere to lockdowns, LOL, you are all idiots!'

    Glad to hear you had a good time. However, It doesn't really matter what you did. What would have mattered is if the whole country decided to do the same thing as you.

    Some people breaking the rules is built into these types of plans by design, you won't get 100% confirmity to them because there's always be 'rebels' and cRItICAL tHiNkERs and folks who just don't give a shite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,795 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I think what Covid really showed us is that the vast majority of people will come together for the common good and that there will always be a minority who don't give a shyte about anyone but themselves.

    It speaks volumes when that poster thinks being selfish and dishonest is something to brag about.

    But I suspect that post is full of half-truths and major exaggerations, which is even sadder.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭yagan


    Well boasting about ignoring a societies effort to save lives is never a good look. Yes, in practice they isolated, but boasting about flouting it will never go down well, especially if do so in front of someone who lost loved ones to the virus.

    I am happy to admit there were aspects I enjoyed about the pandemic, catching up with my book pile without distraction was a personal favorite, but nothing about my coping required contravening a collective effort.

    Edit to add my partner had to return to healthcare duties during lockdown and she is rightly hostile to people boasting about flouting protective measures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭yagan


    Go to youtube, google Wuhan lockdown and set the comments to just the weeks after and you'll nothing but conspiracies about it being a communist hoax to lock people up.

    Pandemic protocols are a norm in Asia, but not really anywhere else except in sub sahara where ebola is a constant worry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Not entirely true. On the 8th of March I went on holiday with my then girlfriend who was chinese. Landing back home in Dublin on the 15th of March, I got a text from my boss saying we were all working from home for the next few weeks due to the virus. Landing back home in Shanghai she was lead directly from the airport onto a bus where she and everyone else from her flight were put in a quarantine hotel for 2 weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭techman1


    am happy to admit there were aspects I enjoyed about the pandemic, catching up with my book pile without distraction was a personal favorite, but nothing about my coping required contravening a collective effort.

    Edit to add my partner had to return to healthcare duties during lockdown and she is rightly hostile to people boasting about flouting protective measures.

    Your posts are like a reheat of the whole liveline Joe Duffy show through out the covid period.

    "Now Wash Your Hands "

    "Joe, I was disgusted absolutely disgusted to see a load of builders in my local Centra in high viz jackets all laughing and joking and not social distancing. I was so disgusted I immediately walked out and warned other residents not to enter the shop. All the building sites need to be closed immediately, Joe, immediately "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    not looking to zinger anyone- glad i provoked you though ,wasn't the intention, but i will take it!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,811 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    At least you posted a source for your critical thinking this time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭techman1


    Landing back home in Shanghai she was lead directly from the airport onto a bus where she and everyone else from her flight were put in a quarantine hotel for 2 weeks.

    By that time everyone knew that the virus had originated in China, the cover up was happening in January 2020 and Christmas 2019, it's called covid 19 because it started in 2019 in China. By early March 2020 it was already well advanced in China whereas they were few confirmed cases in Europe. If the Chinese authorities had done their job properly it shouldn't have spread so fast out of China but they were trying to keep it hush hush and even tried to blame Italy for original outbreak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Great book, Alan Moore was on fire during that period and David Lloyd's art really worked in tandem.

    But you know what? It's an anti establishment comic book from the 80s aimed at teens / young adults. Nothing wrong with that, but when you 'fully grow up', you should see it for what it is, entertainment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭seanin4711




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭yagan


    Some studies suggest it traveled to China from Italy in 2019.

    This study shows an unexpected very early circulation of SARS-CoV-2 among asymptomatic individuals in Italy several months before the first patient was identified, and clarifies the onset and spread of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic.

    Wuhan hosted the World Military Games in October 2019, but lung tissue samples from normal screening showed an earlier version of the same virus already swirling in Italy before it showed up in China.

    Even though it was called the Spanish Flu it is believed that virus originated in the WWI battlefields, but due to wartime press restrictions public reportage didn't emerge until it reached Spain.

    The bias against China was strong in western media, but the science suggests it originated in Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,707 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I'm not telling you what to do, just commenting on your apparent source of 'free thinking' 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    Imagine people, and a lot of people at that, think they are smearing you by calling you a 'critical thinker'.

    What a time to be alive.

    You don't be thinking too much now, you hear. All the cool people, they do as they are told.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    I seem to remember there was also a study that found antibodies in blood samples in France from that Autumn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭yagan


    Some people thought they knew better than the virus.

    Critical thinking is fine in the right time and space, but some people couldn't grasp that a mask needs to cover the nose as well as the mouth to be anyway effective.

    If smoking in pubs were banned today there would be "critical thinkers" kicking back against it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    Without wanting to revisit the whole thing, you do realise that masks and especially soggy masks kept in coat pockets and car doors do the square root of sweet F all for preventing viral spread?

    They were never advised before and were advised against in the early stages of Covid.

    People didn't wear them properly because in their heart of hearts they knew they were useless.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭techman1


    The bias against China was strong in western media, but the science suggests it originated in Europe.

    Rubbish absolute rubbish, you are still trying to propagate that lie now 5 years later. You would put Putin's propagandists and Z patriots in the halpenny place.

    Are you serious COVID 19 started in Italy !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    Agreed, masks in coat pockets and car doors do f-all in preventing viral spread. A properly worn mask on the other hand will reduce the risk of spread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭yagan


    If you opened the link of the peer reviewed study you'd see that it was detected in samples in Italy prior to it being identified in China. It may originated elsewhere, but just because it was detected in tissue samples in Italy doesn't mean that's where it started, just as the Spanish Flu not originating in Spain.

    But by all means smear the peer reviewed studies with bias.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭yagan


    Interestingly I learned that the handkerchief pocket came to be so a person could quickly grab a face covering when suddenly confronted with someone coughing and spluttering in their face.

    I always found the whole argy bargy about the effectiveness of masks tiresome. I still carry one when traveling on trains and planes and I don't see a negative in doing so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,811 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    So because some people were thicker than pìgshit about how to properly use a mask that shows that all masks were a waste of time?

    Christ I missed the anti-madness crew the hoops they'd jump through. Lads proud that they paid for and dumped pub food so they could "win" and get a pint. Oblivious that they were wasting their own money to "win". Then blaming Holohan for food waste/expense that THEY were doing to "beat" the system. Real critical thinkers all right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    That there's a whole cohort of adults that have to be told when they should wash their hands 🙄🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,144 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And in that cohort there are medical professionals :(

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    what a rich and rewarding and fulfilling life you must lead.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Parroting whatever shyte some algorithm is shoving at you on FB or X is definitely not "critical thinking".

    That really shouldn't have had to be spelled out

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭mulbot


    That wasn't the reality for me anyway, we went down to the Canaries, never had any issue at the airport here. We went twice to Tenerife, and over to Estonia a few times.



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