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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,598 ✭✭✭✭zell12


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭khamilton


    I don't doubt the Garda's opinion, but why would it be dismissed? There's video evidence of undertaking, entering a bus lane during its operating hours, a close pass, and speeding.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    This, fair enough it's only a fine but it's possibly a deterrent. The quays are another prime example of stick up a bus lane camera and have it pay for itself within 24 hours. No more of this, I'm turning left up ahead, no entering it until it opens up and right of way to buses in the lane.

    Another option is to give DB and private operators a commission for all cars reported with CCTV from the bus as evidence.

    Simple, just needs some bylaws written up, it would solve a lot of public transport issues within a month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    The issue is a s**t show everywhere and will only get worse as more people chance their arms and realise that they can get away with it. You see clear examples of that aspect of the human psyche when sitting in traffic… one lad will swing into the hard shoulder with his indicator on, implying some vague intention to turn left at some point up ahead, and slowly but surely you'll see heads swivel and people copy him. It's always a him.

    As for the hand wringing about cyclists and e-scooters using the footpath… it seems just an accepted fact of life that cars are entitled to park up/ half up on footpaths in any circumstance where there's no double yellow lines. Not a whimper out of the pearl-clutchers on that issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,837 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    There seems to be zero acceptance or acknowledgement that cars parked on footpaths must have driven on them. But scooters…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    It's a bit like that argument that some people get so worked up about - "you can't say a driver hit a pedestrian because that implies they deliberately drove into them"… I'm sure the cars just happen to roll up onto the pavements and we'll all just have to wait until its proven otherwise before criticising the hard pressed motorists.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,130 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    I half understand drivers being mightily pissed off as they queue endlessly, travelling at a snails pace in traffic, while watching cyclists filter on by utilising a very efficient and healthy form of transport that is costing them a tiny fraction of running costs of a car. Must be a cause of serious frustration.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,439 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i've seen an ad for range rover on youtube a few times, and it can basically be summarised as 'suave guy gives a wry smile, climbs into a range rover, and drives up the steps at the front of a large mansion to get to the front door' and it left me wondering; do people who that ad works on, or is aimed at, have any sense of self awareness?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,439 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it was a shortened version of this i was presented with:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,116 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    their job is to sell the car. Most cars spend most of their lives in traffic - you never see any traffic in car ads, it just doesn't exist.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Its aimed at those who see themselves as living at a level above the plebs, those to who rules don't really apply. "Sure, it was a bus lane/ one-way street/ red light, but look, I'm successful, elite and busy, stop bothering me. Those rules of the the underclass sheeple".

    In short, there are scumbags who treat the roads as their own private highways driving crap cars. They should be punished. You, however, in your expensive suit and big Range Rover, you get a free pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,837 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    This is the main reason for the issue with people rolling red lights. Zero to do with safety, the mythical grannies killed. Pure jealousy born of frustration.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,439 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i don't think people run red lights because of jealousy towards cyclists? or did i misread you?

    they do it because they can get away with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Exactly, in many cases a bike can proceed safely ahead whilst a light is red and a car cannot.

    I'm personally in favour of little to no red or green lights for all cyclists, E scooters, E bikes etc. Have every light where possible be a amber light meaning proceed if safe.

    No reason for a bike to be waiting at a stupid set of lights if it can proceed safely ahead. The more lights/stop start there is the more one is discouraged from cycling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,837 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    People driving are so exercised by it, because they see others making fast progress while they are stuck being traffic. Same reason a significant number of people driving deliberately try to stop people filtering.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Jesus, back in the big smoke today. First traffic lights I stopped at and excluding the ones who went through on amber, there were taxis who went through a long changed red. One actually swung out and overtook a taxi that stopped. Where was this, somewhere quiet, some backroad with no pedestrians and little traffic. No, this was on Dame Street, with the side walks packed and people crossing the road at the time. Yes I seen a few cyclists running reds, more than I used to, while in the minority, they all slow rolled it until it was clear.

    This isn't a dig at taxis, a short time later, several waited back as they observed vans double parked and allowed me to merge out safely, it was a good showing of situational awareness. More just the sheer annoyance from me at people giving out about cyclists being some scourge to the people of Dublin when in fact, they are no worse than any other road user group.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,130 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    In Dublin, an amber light means accelerate like fork or you might be stuck waiting for the next green. Some folks just seem to do it from way too far back in the queue and get agitated when those in front don't have the same idea. I've been beeped a few times being that person in front failing to properly understand this ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,468 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Not just Dublin. I dropped the kids to school this morning as it was sheeting it down. I had a green light for about 3 or 4 seconds with I think 4 cars streaming through the red



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    He is from a TV show where an upper class child comes home from being a soldier after his father passes in a wealthy family, to get entangled in his fathers renting of land to drug growers. Possibly called the Gentleman, a Guy Ritchie style movie to give rise to the idea that being a drug dealer or in the drug trade is cool and will lead to good things, provided you are good looking and have money in the first place. I can well imagine a lot of their target audience would have been big fans of the show and aspire to be it's main character.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,837 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    It is the Gentleman, good show I thought (and no, and I have no aspirations to be any of the characters, or indeed ever own or drive a range rover!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭beggars_bush




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,439 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    On that topic:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/11/15/government-urged-to-act-as-speeding-motorists-swerve-driving-bans-with-charity-donations/

    It seems the high court ruled that judges cannot override the law on this matter but many of them still do.

    Probably paywalled - the story mentions that one judge allowed charges of dangerous driving to be dropped to careless driving (thus avoiding a driving ban), in two cases where the motorists were caught doing over 200km/h. One made a donation of €10k to charity to achieve this, and the other €20k.

    He let off others with the same treatment for a free hundred Euro seemingly.



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