Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Never said anything was her fault.

The duplicitousness of politicians is astounding. Just last month we had the FFG mouthpiece mob trying to derail Connollys campaign with a story of her signing an unvetted person into the Dail. Meanwhile their government give tens of thousands of unvetted people the run of the country and deride anyone that complains.

Shocker of an effort

The purpose of the Asylum system is to provide temporary shelter/refuge from immediate danger - it is not there to provide for people who want “something better”

You’ve just listed off a bunch of fringe extremists, you haven’t engaged with any of the topic whatsoever.
They are not on my (or I would imagine anyone in this thread’s “side”), that is a dishonest misrepresentation.

Or are you genuinely trying to suggest that the majority of people in this country are in agreement with these extremist “dole sponges” as you call them.
Hitler was a vegetarian - I imagine on this basis you disregard what any vegetarian has to say about anything?

Let’s hear some actual reasoning from you instead of pointing randomly to fringe elements in a limp attempt at smearing. You haven’t actually made any points in favour of your argument here.

Polling over the last few years has consistently shown that 75 to 80% of people think we are taking in too many immigrants.

You're "they come here for a better life " argument means that you actually agree with those who have been arguing that the asylum process is being exploiting by people who are not genuine asylum seekers and are actually economic migrants, trying to scam the system.Ireland does not exist to provide the worlds population with a better life, it can barely provide Irish people with a better life.

It was over 1600 asked, that’s absolutely a reasonable sample size for a country the size of Ireland

Not that I imagine you even checked.

Much easier for you to stick your fingers in your ears and go “Lalalalalala” when presented with evidence that your beliefs are not justified (after the initial tactic of cheap smear has failed)

Are you serious??
You still haven’t made any points yet

It's purely a huge coincidence that the current polls regarding concerns over immigration policy (80%) are almost identical to the results of the only referendum the country has ever held on immigration policy (79.17% voted to close the anchor baby loophole in our constitution in 2004).

As I said on the Holly Cairns thread the whole immigration system we have is a mess. From the long processing times to claimants being free to wander about the country and after 6 months being allowed to work, it's madness. There is no way anyone who has come to the country to claim Asylum either with documentation or without should be allowed to roam around until their claim has been processed. The way I see while someone is waiting for their claim to be processed they are neither in or out of the country but in a holding area, and therefore should be held in a facility where they are looked after but are not free to leave to roam around the country, they can leave if they want but that is to leave to the country and there is no way they should be allowed to work after 6 months. Now we have the added complication of some applicants pretending to be juveniles when they are not.

The government need to get on top of the processing times and get it down to a more reasonable time frame and they also need to stop handing out Irish passports like confetti, those citizen ceremonies they have are more like Moonie weddings. I have more respect for those coming here illegally but bypassing the immigration system and supporting themselves than I do for those chancers looking to game system and I have no respect for any adult pretending to a juvenile, and if they are found out their claim should be refused, and they should be deported at once and not allowed back for 20 years.

Back to where they came from, they arrived here from somewhere and that is where they should be sent back to. If not then do an agreement with Rwanda like the Uk tried to do and send them there till they are processed or they person can say where they have come from and be deported.

So we should just accept them then? What is even the point of a immigration system when anyone can just turn up, say they have no documents, and from your post they don't know where they have come from and we have to accept them?

Here is what we do, we either build a hold facility, where they will be held while their claim is processed, they wont be able to wander around the country, they will be confined to that facility, now they can say look I want to leave this is where I am from and I am sure we can help repatriate them but if not they are going to stay there till the claim is processed.

And I know you are going to ask where will they build this facility, well the answer is and they have already started, Thornton Hall.

If I arrive in Canada without appropriate documentation am I entitled to stay in Canada forever

Or can the Canadian government try to work out who I am where I am from and then send me back there?

Well that is what needs to be done whether Catherine Connolly likes it or not, she's not a policy maker.

You could build a holding centre in a few weeks.All you need a few fences and tents/prefabs.Plenty of government owned land they could be put in fairly quickly.

If one of the parties actually proposed this as a policy they'd win the next election.