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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    They're also a party controlled by Billionaires. In many cases its the same billionaires who support Trump when it suits them. These guys are probably feeling a bit anxious that the great unwashed were getting a bit pee'd off not getting paid and might start turning on them. So cut it out and lets get back to the charade while they continue to gut the taxpayer. No different here than it is there. Just a different bunch of knuts pulling the strings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,201 ✭✭✭Patser


    I'm really getting a feeling that Maga/Republicans are following the trajectory or Boris Johnson/Conservatives.

    When Johnson won 2019 election, in what was almost a pure personality win as opposed to policy, and promised the sun, the moon and the stars; while letting Cummings pull the strings behind the party and purge it of any centrists who weren't Johnson sycophants. It completely hollowed out the party of any mass appeal, and once Johnsons leadership ended in disgrace, the whole cult of BoJo appeal evaporated and the party has now imploded to the point of potential extinction.

    I get that same feel now watching Republicans tearing the party to the fringe, hollowing out the centre, with Miller playing the part of Cummings, and their actions horrifying middle America, the the point I wouldn't be surprised if next few election cycles Republicans face massive losses, and when Trump goes the party splits with a new MAGA centric (similar to Reform in UK) party emerging, taking whatever cult supporters are left with it, and leaving a mortally wounded Republican party trying to refind the centre while being tarnished by today's actions while afraid of been eaten up by MAGA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    The difference is that voters in the UK had the option of voting for more than one other party than the Boris Band of Brothers. And when the chance came, they did. Even though the British FPTP system is as deeply flawed as the US version, most Brits have a genuine choice of three, four, five or more candidates/parties to give their vote to. That's not the case in the USA.

    To put things in perspective, for the comparable populations of the EU and the US, the European parliament is made up of eight different groups and a bunch of independents. That's eight political groups, each of which pulls together members of different parties from the different member states.

    Ireland alone has ten different parties in its national assembly, Britain has thirteen, France has … forty!

    The US has … two. For a country that supposedly prides itself on creativity and disruptive innovation, that's a pretty damning indictment not just of the political system, but also the tens of millions of voters who can't be bothered to give anyone else a shot at government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,441 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I wouldn't blame the political parties its all on the voters.

    To be fair to the GOP, they have completely changed to align themselves with the MAGA voter. So while it may still be two parties, one of those is very different to what went before.

    It shows the power the voters have. The Democrat voters haven't demanded the same level of change. They should be demanding the end to corporate lobbying. Demanding that gun control be brought in. Or whatever it is that they want.

    Instead they vote for the same thing every time. They get limited bursts. AOC, Sanders, the new NY Mayor. Even Obama. But they also accept the rest of them. Pelosi, Schumer etc. That want to keep everything as it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    So now that it looks like the shutdown is coming to an end, there will be no excuse left for that snake Johnson to block the swearing in of Adelita Grijalva which will mean there will be enough votes in the House to force the release of the Epstein files. Unless Johnson will somehow hold off until December when there is a special election in Tennessee which will probably see a GOP candidate win thus providing enough numbers to block the release again. If he does that, it will be clear as day that he is protecting Epstein's friends.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    trump to sue bbc for


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15277189/Donald-Trump-threatens-sue-BBC-1billion-fails-respond-Friday-doctored-Panorama-speech.html

    "Sir Keir Starmer also backed the BBC. His spokesman said the Prime Minister does not believe it is 'institutionally biased'.

    But Nigel Farage has said he has spoken to Mr Trump, who is 'absolutely enraged'. The Reform UK leader accused the 'biased' BBC of 'election interference'."

    This will be fun, BBC operates on taxpayers funds and Farage, ever the opportunist, jumps right into the middle, this happened under BoJo's watch, friendly with Farage - Brexit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Wait and see, the same GOP members who signed the petition will vote against it when it comes to a floor vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,009 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Exhibit A in the defence of the BBC against any litigation will be the quote by Farage.

    Judge - "Farage said that? Complete bollox - case dismissed"

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,699 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Chuck the Cuck strikes again. Never fails to miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1987761111719190704?s=20

    I look forward to the day he is reading 'state your name' and saying guilty or not guilty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    What Trump done was bad enough without the BBC needing to embelish it even further. What morons they are.

    If the BBC have to pay the $1 Billion, the license fee won't have any leg to stand on.

    Everyone will be calling it the Donald Trump License fee.

    Post edited by 10000maniacs on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,441 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    What was the point of the shutdown if the dems were simply going to cave in?

    They have created hardship and uncertainty for nothing. And the GOP look like they were right all along. The Dems caused the shutdown for their own political agenda. It was never about a position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,728 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's absolutely infuriating. They made it look like they were the ones who caused it being the length it was. Not only that but they gave Johnson and Trump the opportunity to claim that they have been completely vindicated in their stance.

    Irrespective of those who voted, I believe Schumer is the reason the votes went as they did and I don't know why he is playing the game he is playing.

    Is it the corporate interests that have influence over the likes of him that caused this cave in? Or what is it?

    It's absolutely dumbfounding and is the best possible outcome for the Republicans just 5 days after Democrats blew them out of the water in elections nationwide.

    It's sickening to think of the smugness of Johnson and Trump and how they are going to use this going forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,174 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    does Trump have any idea that the BBC isn’t a private company ? It’s a state / public service broadcaster.

    Shows you what an absolute nut job he is. Even just threatening to sue it is basically taking aim at Britain, his and the US most, important, hardened and loyal ally.

    He is genuinely off his rocker. Talk about pick your battles ffs, an ego maniac like never before seen. Scary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,728 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's much harder to build a viable 3rd party in the US than it is in the UK. The geographical spread and size of the country is one big reason for this. And tied to this is the need for parties to have representatives at the local level and the Americans vote on way more public positions than they do in the UK. School boards, sheriffs, judges, are just few of the positions that are contested publicly in many districts.

    A "MAGA" party, such as the Tea Party may exist but they will be nothing more than a collective at the Washington level for however long they exist. And they might exist in that way for a while, as some sort of a tool to force various narratives and to pressure the wider conservative movement to consider various stances for as long as their financial backers will support them. That's the second reason why starting a 3rd party is much harder in the US. The cost involved. It's astronomical and people will only put money in if they have a realistic chance of a return and that takes time.

    A 3rd party could exist, but it would have to grow regionally before being a national factor I think. Also, it remains to be seen how Reform will exist once Farage is no longer a participant. UKIP still exists, but it is a non-entity in terms of affecting what governing bodies are actually formed. I know they've done very well in getting control of councils etc but that hasn't gone particularly well for them and I think a lot of that success they had was because people were aligned with Farage rather than the specific individuals involved at the local level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,728 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The 2 people resigning as they did has handed Trump a blank cheque. He will 100% see that as an admission that he is right and therefore entitled to money. I saw a clip of Emily Maitlis earlier and she was suggesting that maybe the resignations came as a consequence of his letter in an effort to say that this has been dealt with but I don't think Trump will see it that way.

    And I can 100% see the BBC giving a payout to Trump of some level over this. Paramount paid him $16M over something similar so maybe that will be a reference point. It's galling that the most dishonest President in US history is having bodies paying him for supposed misrepresentation of his own words.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,874 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    An assessment from back in August why this was likely.

    https://reason.com/volokh/2025/08/13/why-the-supreme-court-is-highly-unlikely-to-overturn-obergefell-in-the-kim-davis-case/

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    There was little useful legal argument on her side, it was entirely political. There is little surprise that the court refused to entertain it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,009 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "There is little surprise that the court refused to entertain it."

    Well, that depends entirely on your confidence in the US Supreme Court at present, and I think most think/know it's a stacked, completely biased, right wing Trump approving rubber stamp show.

    So, yes - despite your post, I'm still surprised.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,728 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Apparently all 9 justices declined to hear it the appeal (though I can't see that confirmed).

    That is what I would be surprised about because apparently a number of states have enacted laws criticizing Obergefell but if the Supreme Court in its entirety said there was nothing to hear it will hopefully push back on things like that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,009 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The post below pops up far too often in my social media...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,009 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I hear you, but my point is that confidence in SCOTUS is in the toilet at present, so regardless of the "correct" decision, people are still surprised

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,310 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    If foreign state owned press start paying Trump personally then not just America but the world is truly fxxked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    And yet another despicable act by the CFTrump regime…

    https://www.newsweek.com/memorial-to-black-us-soldiers-who-died-in-ww2-quietly-removed-11020241

    Plaques commemorating African American soldiers fighting against Nazi Germany in Europe have been removed from a U.S. military cemetery in the Netherlands.

    Similar to the Arlington website back in March…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz03gjnxe25o

    But sadly there does not seem to be much kick back from current service men/women or the veterans.

    What a broken country it is :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭Economics101


    You and others seem to assume that (a) Trump will actually sue as opposed to threaten to sue and (b) that he will win. Given his stellar success rate in litigation maybe the only winners will be defendants' lawyers. Plaintiff's lowyers will probably get stiffed.

    And whare would the case be taken: USA or UK?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,071 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Did everyone forget the epstein card lawsuit that was unceremoniously rejected?

    This is to make headlines, the British press are fools to be engaging with it and the BBC seems determined to commit seppuku as publicly as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭Patrick2010




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    Thank you Patrick, I stand corrected on that point, as I can actually find the bio on Colin Powell there. I should have checked before posting that particular point from the BBC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/10/trump-supreme-court-e-jean-carroll-lawsuit

    "The second circuit upheld that verdict on 8 September, with a three-judge panel calling the jury’s damages awards “fair and reasonable”. Trump has since asked the full appellate court to hear arguments and reconsider the ruling.

    Trump has had recent success fending off costly civil judgments. In August, a New York appeals court threw out Trump’s staggering penalty in a state civil fraud lawsuit."

    Trump has been slapped around the head a few times by Carroll and now it goes before the SC, it got knocked back twice for reasons of no new evidence, original verdict stands, so expectation should be of same result, Carroll's backer has the coin to support her.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2025/nov/06/view-border-wall-us-mexico-in-pictures

    Some lovely pics of Bannon and Trump's wall from last time out, Bannon had to do some time for filling his pockets albeit with Trump's blessing.



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