Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

I think the goverment should take measures to ensure objectivity in RTÉ

The Govt have the legacy media bought off - RTE does what the Govt wants and allows them to do/say - simples

Exhibit A.

The FG cllrs people trafficking business - thejournal.ie reported on it in August

Baby and Britto Pereppadan

Aug 7th

Aug 12th

Have a look at how the largest and most well funded media organisation in the state handled the story. It turns out it wasn't even mentioned in the first place. 'The Truth matters' motto only seems to apply to stories that are favourable to FG and the Govt in general

Why are the opposition not screaming about the fact that the Govt have bought out the legacy media with public money?

It's a bad state of affairs when the journal.ie starts to become a credible source of info

Cue high level talks between FG and the thejournal.ie about supporting their news site with massive donations from exchequer funding

Government have been operating with 98% impunity as they trash the country

The Pereppadan's were a perfect fit for FG though - Snouts straight into the trough knowing well, that should anything negative emerge, it won't get much coverage

There are no countries at war that border Ireland. Anyone arriving here (without direct Government/NGO support to do so) has travelled through at least one, but likely multiple, safe countries to get here and are thus not seeking refuge but handouts and/or economic opportunities for not just them, but likely their extended families.

If on arrival they offer a sad story, it's an attempt to subvert the work visa process. By definition then they are lying and should be deported back to their last point of departure.

If they have arrived legally but have no verifiable means to support themselves (think at least 6 months rent plus living expenses), or a job lined up that can be validated, they represent a drain on the State that we cannot afford nor house and their application should be rejected.

If they arrive with no documentation at all or no way to verify their identity, they should be denied entry. We cannot accept the risk of importing any more criminals when we have enough here already that the Gardai can barely keep up with.

If subject to the above checks, they are granted entry but commit serious or violent crimes they should be deported back to their stated place of origin immediately upon conviction. None of this imprison and pay for their care at taxpayers expense nonsense. We don't have enough prison space as it is. Send them back with a Garda/immigration escort.

Similarly, if they are denied entry or served a deportation order, they should immediately be delivered to the airport and escorted out of the country. None of this "now you get yourself away, right?" idiocy.

The only place these applications and decisions should be made is in dedicated facilities adjacent to the airports/ports. Until that decision is made, they should be housed in that location. None of this freedom to wander the country stuff. If it feels like containment or a prison, well then feel free to try your luck somewhere else!

All those who are denied entry or residency for whatever reason should have their details recorded, biometrics stored, and refused further applications for at least the next 15 years.

Citizenship needs to change from something handed out like a cereal box prize or a reward for "time served" dodging deportation or running down the clock, to something that is earned and only granted under very limited conditions. We should value our identity and place in the world and the benefits it offers and not just give it away to anyone who asks.

Likewise, the rights to buy property, religious practices, cultural tolerance etc should not conflict with or contravene the laws, practises or rights of our existing society. If you come here, you accept and integrate into our culture, not expect Ireland to bend over to accommodate yours.

It's time to get serious about all this. The country is being overrun by the sheer numbers involved (never mind the other problems we've seen) and society is gradually coming apart.

Immigration can absolutely be a positive and valuable thing, but on our terms and subject to our conditions, our needs. Why should it only or primarily benefit the new arrivals or a balance sheet?

Which brings me to my next point - the impact of the levels of immigration on communities (generally the less well off or smaller and rural communities for that matter!) and Irish society, culture and values.

This is something that isn't discussed of course but the country is changing rapidly and significantly with entire areas seeing the community they grew up in transformed in only a few years.

Again that's not necessarily entirely negative but for all it's faults, Ireland is (or was) a pretty good place to grow up in and create a life for yourself (probably why it's so appealing to others now!). The impact of Government mismanagement and focus on economic performance at all costs is real yes, but rather than enriching our society (as multiculturalism is supposed to do - allegedly!), it seems to be diluting it and causing more issues than we already have. As I said above, where's the benefit? Why is it only one way?

As I've said before though, this isn't a new problem of the last 5 years. Many of the effects are the result of policies and sleep-walking our way into it for the last 20 years!

The results of that are something we and our children will have to deal with regardless, but what we CAN do and absolutely NEED TO DO, is to stop making the situation worse - NOW, not at the next general election, not as a knee-jerk response to the latest money scam, violent crime, rape, or murder.

Vigilante justice is NEVER a solution, but know what's happening around you. Lobby your TD and councillors, get involved in whatever community, school or residents association you have around you, do vote and vote on the issues not the one who got you your planning permission, and if you have questions or concerns about what you're told, make sure that you question and challenge them - and keep demanding answers and make yourself heard until the message sinks in.

Or don't... And then don't ask why you or your kids can't afford to rent never mind buy a home, don't ask why your GP can't see you for a fortnight now or why your hospital appointment is taking even longer than it used to. Don't ask why your kids are on a waiting list for a school place now when previously they got straight in. Don't ask why the locality seems to be less safe at night or even during the day. Definitely don't ask why it sometimes seems like you're a minority in your own community or why it seems that your needs and supports are less urgent than others.

The choice, as they say, is yours!

Not if you place the new iPo office behind customs

Roderick gone from government, McEntee in Education so out of sight , Harris sliming all over Immigration to retrench after a sxxx presidential campaign , and so now despite the fact she has nothing to do with government , it's suddenly All Holly Cairns' Fault ! Everywhere 😊

She certainly is having a strong effect on people .

Mod Edit: Warned for baiting and trolling