Kilkenny GAA Thread

In even more depressing news and fair play to Tipperary GAA, John Magnier and family have gifted 14 acres to Tipperary GAA just outside the boundary at Dr. Morris Park.

Yeah shes been around the journalistic rounds from what I hear.Used to work for the Indo as well.Big drop down from that to working in local media,it must be said.

An interesting and not too common career trajectory in Ireland.

Based on prime time last night, and on anecdotal evidence previously, DJ himself was ironically the victim of a large fraud himself by his own accountant who was, ahem, well known to him.

Just an awful story in every way, basically an icon turned conman in order to maintain a certain lifestyle he had become accustomed to. A superstar who sunk to a horrible low with the type of con he perpetrated. DJ was an absolutely unique hurling talent, the greatest I've ever seen or likely will see, and he threw it all away for greed.

I feel sorry for all of his victims of course, and I believe there are plenty we haven't heard about and likely will never know about, but ultimately the people who will suffer most from this are DJ himself, and unfortunately, his innocent close relations.

I have no issue with a journalist telling a story that's in the public interest, but there is certainly an element of tabloid sensationalism to her method. Some stuff is personalised, unrelated to the crimes and I believe unnecessary, and much of it is based on hearsay from unnamed sources. I understand people being interested in the con and how he duped people, but headlines from anonymous sources saying he's 'thick' etc, just seems opportunistic and gratuitous.

I'd expect Huw Lawlor and Mossy to both get All stars, both very well deserving. Cian Kenny will be unlucky to miss out again I feel.

Are you sure? When there is a vacancy for treasurer I don't think there will be nominations taken in the same way as for other roles.

Exactly this.

Correct Ned.

From the GAA Official Guide.

Convention

3.8 Convention

An Annual County Convention shall be held before 18th December. It shall consist of the Officers and Members of the outgoing Committee (voting rights as on the Committee) and two delegates from each Club which competed in a Junior or higher grade Championship of the current year. A newly elected Officer, unless a member of the outgoing County Committee or a delegate, shall not have the right to vote at any stage of the Convention. In special circumstances, a County Committee may summon a Special Convention. Representation and Notice shall be determined by the County Committee.

3.9Elections

Subject to the Exceptions hereunder:

(a) The Annual County Convention shall elect the following Officers of the County Committee: Chairperson, Vice Chairperson, Secretary, Assistant Secretary, if desired; Treasurer, Assistant Treasurer, if desired; Coaching Officer, Officer for Irish Language and Culture, Public Relations Officer, and Hurling Officer, if desired; and shall appoint a Planning and Training Officer, Demographics Officer and a Children’s Officer recommended by the outgoing County Committee.

(b) A member shall not hold more than one of the above Officerships at any given time. The Officers elected/appointed shall hold office until the conclusion of the next Annual Convention. A member who has served five years either consecutively or cumulatively, in a specific Officership, shall be ineligible to hold that Officership for the five year period following immediately after serving the fifth year in that Office. If a member is elected as an Officer of the County Committee ‘in term’, twenty-six weeks or less before Convention, that time served shall not be considered as part of the five years’ period.

Exceptions to (a) and (b) above: (1) Where a County Committee, with permission of the Central Council, has appointed a Secretary for a period in excess of one year, that Officership shall not be subject to Election or to the provision of Section (b). (2) Where a County Bye-Law provides that the positions of Treasurer and/or Children’s Officer are/is not subject to a maximum number of years in office, the provision of Section (b) does not apply.

(c) Subject to the limitations set out at (b), a County Bye-Law may make provision regulating and controlling eligibility/ tenure for election to the Officer positions outlined in Section (a).

(d) It shall further elect: Two representatives on Provincial Council and one representative on Central Council, who shall hold office respectively for the term of the ensuing Provincial and Central Councils.

(e) Should a vacancy arise in the Officerships of the County Committee or in a County’s representation on Central or Provincial Council, it shall be filled on the basis of (a) Nomination by Clubs, (b) ballot vote of Officers and Members of the current County Committee. (f) 3.10 Voting to fill the Elective positions specified above shall be by secret ballot and on the basis of the Proportional Representation system.

@Sir Chaz

For some reason my quote function not working.

Anyway, well written reply, fair play.

Firstly, I dont know what pearl clutching means, have heard it said many times - I must look it up :-)

I hear what you are saying - in that I absolutely 100% agree with you that I would rather be the person conned, than the person who did the conning.

Talking about how he is the biggest victim - to me that expresses sympathy. If not, then what is the point of saying it….a propos of what?

To your specific point - can you be sympathetic to the victims and stand by this point simultaneously? Maybe a more relevant word is empathetic. Do you think the victims would feel better or worse when they hear that view expressed? I dont think thats something they would want to hear, or be told. So I wouldnt say it.

how did he get away with it?

Suprised he even made it to prison.