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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Sounds like cope as the kids would say MM.

    A dem winning NY is far from end times for the GOP, but looking at races that didn't get the same attention in non blue states its quite concerning for the GOP.

    https://x.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1985881440370954414

    Pennsylvania will also retain all 3 Democratic state Supreme Court justices.

    2028 is ages away, but this is very much "its the economy stupid" type of results and a lot of people are hurting economically and no amount of culture war bollocks about trans athletes was going to save the GOP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭francois




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,150 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The reactions to the Mamdani from Trump fans is pretty amusing viewing. You'd think Al Qaeda had come to power. 🤣



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,512 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Having had a look at the Gravely, I said to myself "this is clearly not a lead ship in any flotilla the US Admin would use for sea to shore direct action in an action with Venezuela", which is why I posted a brief description and photo of it.

    If Trump does intend to follow on from his sabre-rattling against Venezuela's president and sovereignty, He'll need a well endowed flotilla outside that country's maritime and air territory for his adventurism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,265 ✭✭✭thomil


    Gravely and her sister ships each carry up to 90 surface to air and surface to surface missiles in vertical launch cells, in addition to the eight Harpoon anti-ship missiles in those diagonal launch canisters. The octagonal patches on the bridge superstructure are part of the SPY-1 radar system, a system powerful enough to track targets in low earth orbit. They may look lightly armed, but the Arleigh Burke-class pack a serious punch.

    I will agree with you though insofar as that these ships are completely useless for any actual amphibious landing operations. They can’t land troops, and they’re obviously not aircraft carriers. However, a couple of Burkes launching salvoes of cruise missiles can do a lot of damage in a relatively short time.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,256 ✭✭✭eire4


    Crazy yes but its to be expected its who the corporate controlled Democratic party are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭francois


    SCOTUS looking skeptical at the tariff question, DOW up 300 points on it, though final ruling after private discussion Friday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I had flashback images to The Falklands and how the other navy got slammed by Exocets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭Lirange


    The Texas legislature passed their grotesque gerrymandering redistricting law in August. Then Governor Abbott promptly signed it. Texas and the MAGA GOP absolutely instigated this and though you may find it “annoying” that California responded with Prop 50 what did you think would happen? The Dems are certainly not going to wait or assume that the courts will throw out Texas’s and other state MAGA impromptu gerrymandering schemes. That would be foolish. They had to act quickly with a ballot measure. The Texas gerrymander and other proposed MAGA efforts have clearly been induced by the Trump administration. Now if California’s are tossed they’ll need to discard Texas’s too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    In news on the FBI, four agents fired yesterday by D/FBI were rehired as the prosecutor in charge of ongoing criminal cases needed experienced investigators to pursue court cases. The rehire didn't last long as the D/FBI did a TACO and fired the 4 agents again today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 344 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    I think your “Ukraine Genocide” cant is a form of <blue-blankie> zoochosis.

    Any somewhat sane person can see Trump /the US is still funding & driving the chessboard war in Ukraine
    AND AND AND
    funding the genocide in Palestine – how could anyone not see it?
    One would have to be blind for ideological reasons to not see it!!

    Anyway, no need to answer - this isn’t the graveyard Bandera SS thread.

    James Connolly, The Irish Flag (1916)
    Common Prosperity, China (2021)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,202 ✭✭✭Patser


    I was looking at Nate Silvers page for polling information, and 1 thing jumped out at me.

    Trump is on negative 11 job satisfaction......

    On Rasmussen!!!

    Rasmussen; that's like The Sun saying Murdoch isn't a great owner, or someone in Trump's cabinet actually having a bad thing to say about him.

    How bad must things be for Trump is Rasmussen Reports has him at -11 (and still one of the highest job satisfaction ratings)

    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration_second_term/prez_track_nov05

    https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    If SCOTUS scuppers the tariff issue, which is proving to be highly unpopular, Trump can blame it on them and back down without losing face

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Ron De Santis blaming the move by GOP voters from NYC and other places to Florida for the election results… tsk, tsk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It all depends on how much credibility SCOTUS places on the fact that US industry bosses are the "plaintiffs" and the Trump Admin are the "defendants", as it were, in the case stated before it for decision. SCOTUS has a big problem with the "defendant's" credibility in light of the state of industry and public welfare after Trump initiated the tariffs at the U.S customs borders.

    It's plain as the nose on his face that Trump will use the rumoured alternative Admin plans to replace the tariffs by use of other legislation if SCOTUS cant come up with a blinder to relieve the "plaintiffs" of the tariff costs while also let the Admin keep applying the tariffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭francois


    Yes but Trump Tariffs has stuck. Personally, it's too early to see if this is a harbinger of a blue wave next year, if the economy improves all bets are off, it is always about the bottom line for the majority of Americans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,084 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Both parties are controlled by corporations. It's not even a conspiracy thing - it is extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible, to get to high office in the USA without big corporate donors giving money to your campaign, and this money isn't given in the spirit of charity. It it is given with the explicit or implicit expectation that you will work in their interest. It's something that Bernie Sanders has been banging the drum on for a long time and the political establishment has worked to sideline him as a result.

    Trump came to power by side stepping the regular party apparatus and faced similar establishment resistance at first. Luckily, he is the most corrupt person ever to be US president and getting him on the side of a corporation isn't much harder than a relatively small donation to his presidential library.

    If Mamdani were to run for 2028 (assuming Trump cannot compromise that election), he will need to similarly sidestep the regular political pathways to have a real chance, but his relative lack of corruption would make things very interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Sadly Mandami can't run for president ever.

    I'd like a progressive of similar stature to be win the Dem primary to face Vance, but its likely to be Newsom who is a corporate Dem with lots of flaws, but heh as long as Vance loses is the main thing.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/us-politics/zohran-mamdani-not-president-us-boris-johnson-can-new-york-mayor-b1256658.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Yes, Mandami could mark a turning point in US politics.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,997 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Oh please this is absolutely nauseating stuff. Did what he could my hole. I detest trump and think he is worse than Biden could ever dream of being but let’s not talk nonsense, Biden was horrific on Gaza. He could have stopped it at any point during his tenure.

    Biden has received the highest sum of money from aipac/pro Israel groups than any other politician in America. He was a bought weakling regarding Israel and his press team was lying constantly at the pulpit regarding the conflict. Don’t be like a fawning trump supporter who resort to absolute bs and lies for his shortcomings. Do better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,196 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Not sure he can never run. People probably said the same about having him as mayor of NY, or about Obama when he ran. Look how that turned out.

    He clearly won’t run in 2028, but he is only 34.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,212 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    he can never run, he wasn’t born in America so hes ineligible to be president. Much like Schwarzenegger could never have run either.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    As has been observed, that doesn’t exactly make the Democrats white shining knights here, it sets us back two decades.

    Yes, Texas Republicans are making headlines with gerrymandering this cycle. Last cycle, it was Illinois Democrats, or maybe you missed that.

    https://apnews.com/article/elections-race-and-ethnicity-philanthropy-barack-obama-state-governments-73d75629c440a971c65e9016476ed869.

    If you look up websites listing the most gerrymandered districts, they aren’t domineered by one party.
    https://ivn.us/posts/10-worst-gerrymandered-states-country-2025-08-18

    Since California passed the redistricting referendum in 2008, a number of states, from blue New Jersey to Red Idaho have followed suit and taken redistricting away from the legislature and to a commission. Even more have done so at the state level. For example, blood red Missouri’s Congressional district map may be partisan, but the districts to select the people drawing the map are done by a 50-50 bipartisan commission and have been since 2020. Further, historically things at State get adopted for federal a little later. (Getting open primaries into California took three tries. The first time, state and congressional folks opposed it. The second time, they only put the referndum at the state level, and congressional folks didn’t spend the effort to oppose. It passed. Then the third time the congressfolk alone couldn’t stop it.) I’m happy to say I voted in favour all three times.

    If the courts strike down Texas’s map, Prop 50 wouldn’t have had anything to do with it. Other than confirming that Democrats are as willing to play dirty as Republican, which we have known for years, I defy you to honestly say this has improved or will set conditions to improve the US’ electoral system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,858 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I know i am wasting my time here because you will just defend everything the Republicans do but district changes are nothing new and serve an important purpose.

    In Texas a line was crossed because it was made clear and advertised as a way to get more Republican seats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm not interested in anti-Semitic conspiracy drivel. Do better.

    Mod Edit: Warned for personal abuse

    Post edited by Necro on

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 28,401 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    The US has a long history of gerrymandering, and they are open about it. The single-member, first-past-the-post electoral system in use in the US hugely rewards gerrymandering, so the incentives to engage in it are quite high. It's an accepted part of the political culture. But this comes with two important qualifications.

    First, because the conduct of elections is in the hands of the states, not the federal government, and because there are a large number of states and a division of state governments between the two establishment parties, on the national level gerrymanders in one state tend to be offset by gerrymanders in other states. So the net impact of gerrymanders on the make-up of Congress is much less than it would be if the gerrymandering occurred at the federal level, entirely controlled by whichever party held a majority in Congress.

    Secondly, it's limited by convention. The US has a national census every ten years; after the census results are published electoral district boundaries are reviewed and revised to take account of the up-to-date information about population levels and distributions. This is called redistricting. If one party controls both houses of the state legislature at this time, they will seek to take advantage of that fact when redistricting. But then the districts are left untouched for another ten years. There is no new information, so why redistrict?

    It's the second convention that's breaking down. After the 2020 census, Texas (which had had 36 seats in the House of Representives) was awarded two more, to reflect its increased share of the population of the US, so redistricting (which would probably have happened anyway) was necessary. The redistricting duly happened in 2021, and took effect for the 2022 elections. At the time, there were complaints that the redistricting was unfair, reducing minority representation even though the growth in Texas's population was largely in minority communities. Various lawsuits were launched; these are still working their way through the courts. I think the general view was that, yeah, there was an element of gerrymandering going on in the 2021 redistricting, but nothing out of the ordinary way.

    What's different, though is that Texas is now proposing another redistricting, even though there hasn't been a new census, there are no additional seats requiring a district and there is no new census information about population distribution.

    What there is information about is how the 2021 redistricting has worked out. Have a look at this table:

    Election

    Republicans:vote%

    Republicans:seat%

    2020

    53%

    64%

    2022

    59%

    66%

    2024

    58%

    66%

    As you can see, the Republicans are consistently overrepresented. This is partly the result of the crappy electoral system, and partly the result of gerrymandering. But, as you can also see, They're less overrepresented after the 2021 redistribution than they were before. They don't feel this is right. By Donald Trump's account, they are "entitled" to five more seats, which would give them 74% of the seats. Not all Texas Republicans would go so far, but they mostly do feel that they've obviously stuffed up the gerrymandering in 2021, and they should be allowed to have a do-over. SFAIK they are quite open about this; the stated purpose of the the current redistribution process is to increase Republican electoral advantage, and give them a greater share of the state's congressional seats.

    Mid-decade redistricting is unusual, but not unprecedented. When it does happen, it's usually because it is necessary — e.g. because the courts have struck down some aspect of the previous redistricting. Nothing like that has happened here, and the Republicans are quite open about their motivation.

    Hence the general dismay — the Republican are transgressing the boundaries of what is considered "acceptable gerrymandering" in US political culture.

    Hence the California proposal, which is basically to do the same thing, but in a Democratic-majority state, in which the Democrats are already overrepresented (60% of the vote in 2024; 83% of the House of Representative seats).

    You could say that both parties are transgressing the accepted boundaries, or you could say that the Republican transgression shifted the boundary, and California is merely accepting the new boundary. Which of these you choose to say probably tells us which party you support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,304 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Yes, it would seem somewhat advantageous to Trump to lose this one.

    His entourage and the tech billionaires have possibly convinced him by now that tariffs aren't actually a good idea.
    It would give the economy a boost, which he can ride the coat-tails of.
    It would entrench him back into 'one good and true man against the system' mode which his supporters lap up.
    It would confirm the independence of the Supreme Court which would make it harder for the detractors when that Court sides with Trump on matters more important, perhaps as far as the 3rd Term issue.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Only US born citizens can run for President under the Constitution



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭somenergy


    If there was a sadist in me I say they should leave tarifs alone and let the elected convict continue his free spirit ICE raming and assaulting it citizens take away their social protections medical insurance and food stamps, his crime family and elites get even richer and enjoy the epstein ballroom

    Americans need a dose of reality



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