Energy infrastructure

Here is an example. https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/midland-tribune/1855008/councillor-demands-clarity-after-go-ahead-given-to-wind-farm-near-birr.html

It seems that some some people want to cram the natives in the smallest residences possible in rural areas to feed the insatiable electricty demands of Datacentres. The wind "industry" moguls don't really need lobbyists when some are so predisposed to oppressing their own countrymen.

When you write "here is an example" I believe they were asking for an example of development being refused because of proximity to turbines/farm.

It's possible you meant to provide a different link, but the one you provided appears to be someone complaining about the opposite: the quoted representatives are complaining about a wind farm being granted approval rather than anything failing to get approval?

Was this a response to my post?

I don't mean to insult but this reads like something generated by AI. It doesn't appear to be engaging the the topic of discussion at all, rather it looks like an attempt at distraction.

No, I'm not following you to a new topic here, sorry.

Has there been an example in Ireland where wind farm or turbine proximity prevented development? What you've been posting really does look like an effort to deflect from this topic.

https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/home/1925129/very-worrying-concerns-raised-as-plans-for-more-wind-turbines-in-offaly-are-revealed.html

Here another from the far side of the county explaining for those who are hard of understanding that once the turbines come that the land is lost to other uses such as God forbid building an affordable house. The average new 3 bed in the county town of Tullamore is now approaching 400k and people in rural areas don't have the earning potential as those in larger cities. There is an awful lot of "let them eat cake" amongst renewable Advocates on this sub-forum. The indigenous people of the Midlands need their own tribal lands like Native Americans to be protected from the rapacious capitalists

It's interesting that the poster could think anyone will respond or discuss in good faith, when they're refusing to do so. I was genuinely interested because I thought there might be some cases where turbines or farms prevented development but now I realise that it was just another spurious claim.

The unfortunate thing is that the thread will inevitably be clogged up with deflectionary posts like this until they're banned (again?)

You made a bold claim and aren't able to stand over it.

I'm also not sure if I want to find out what exactly you mean by "None of you actually care about the indigenous and use derogatory terms for them". Are you able to explain what that means? I'm not sure whether you're talking about indigenous people (and what that might mean…) I'm not sure whether you're describing me and my family, or whether you perhaps don't consider me to be "indigenous" too.

In general I hate saying this but it really just seems like consecutive posts containing bad faith arguments, I can't understand where you're coming from here other than that you dislike the wind energy industry (which is a reasonable position, there's plenty of money-grubbing charlatans in the industry)

Friendly hint - this one-sided stream-of-consciousness style isn’t an effective way of communication in a discussion forum where the flow is driven by questions and responses. If you refuse to directly answer questions about your assertions, your contributions will be quickly ignored - like charlie’s on the nuclear power thread.

Gjim you are going to ignore any reasonable position which doesn't align with your views but I will be damned if I let you present your views as the truth. The Midlands are being destroyed by uncontrolled wind farm development.

It's a shame to need to use the ignore button like this.

I like to think most people come to engage and discuss things.

That's very true to say that wind farms take up much more space than a coal bunrning station, take mountlucas wind farm for example, it takes over 3,000 acres of land. Mind you, there is also a public park on that site, not something you could really do at Moneypoint without causing a bit of lung cancer I'd say