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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    Cheerful’s demand for facts there did make me laugh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I see evidence these are drones. I see no evidence they are "alien drones". Airports aren't shutting down because "alien spacecraft" are blocking aircraft.

    As for the Russian angle, we don't have conclusive proof Russia is involved, they are a prime suspect because they are conducting hybrid warfare against Europe. The Polish had a case whereby around 20 drones came across the border into their airspace from Belarus. Maybe they were aliens, but would suspect it's probably something Russian linked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,780 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    In reality, the truth is that these so-called aliens are not aliens beings, but rather ourselves. We got transported to this planet as captives from a different time due to conflict. This historical information is heavily concealed from us by a system of control and deception.

    The human body only serves as a component of the control. We are not humans at all we are, in fact, entities capable of existing outside a physical body, yet we are deprived of escaping because we do not know that we are living within a prison system.

    UFOs is disregarded by many within the control system as to reveal this truth would expose that the history of the planet is fabricated. This control system recycles almost everyone when you die and prevents them from escaping. Some powerful and wealthy humans have come to terms with this destiny and support the control system from the top down.

    Opposing forces on this planet. Some wish to disclose some information about the ufo subject while others say that nothing is happening and that it is all lies by them. The truth is that UFOs have been retrieved, but many have been shot down by us since 1947

    This region of space a conflict took place between different entities.

    These entities have been engaged in a cold war for hundred of thousands of years, perhaps even longer, with minor skirmishes occurring intermittently.

    This explains to [who dont know] why do never see enormous nhi ships appearing in the sky and why UFOs do not manifest to the world to validate their existence. Such an occurrence would reignite a cold war, escalating into a hot war. The nhi faction that seeks to dismantle this prison system is gradually attempting to influence the informational landscape to awaken humanity to the truth. Sightings of drones reality ufos are a component of this strategy, intended to demonstrate their presence to humans without provoking a larger conflict. They fear that the NHI, which controls the planet, may act recklessly if confronted right now directly, potentially causing harm to the Earth. A plan is underway to undermine the control system through a series of human crisis events and increased public disclosure of the new reality.

    None of this will be comprehensible at the moment, as your memories and everything are erased when you transition and depart from the physical body and recycled consciousness is trapped again over and over. We are the only beings experiencing amnesia in ths area of the solar system. The other civilizations that arrive here in NHI ships are fully cognizant of who we are and how we arrived here. All this information will need to be disclosed to everyone at a later time.

    Regarding my predictions, they will happen all i will say is watch however, they can be influenced by the controlling NHI on the planet, as both sides are employing different strategies to achieve their objectives on this planet. One side aims to maintain control, while the other seeks to dismantle it. Based on my understanding, they had a three-year timeline to terminate the control system before they restricted Internet access and prevented humans from exploring this stuff online. Over a year in now. Other side wins. The situation complicates the task of the other NHI, as it hinders people's ability to broaden their perspectives.

    Information warfare is a crucial aspect of this conflict. Since some crisis events have yet to unfold, I understand looks like rubbish another person point of view.

    These crisis events are designed to provoke criticism regarding the current state of the world, leading people to turn against the system. If individuals begin to question their government's actions in wartime. economics, even around conspiracy a multitude of social issues will arise inside the control system, revealing cracks that the media can no longer hide.

    I am uncertain about the exact extent of influence that the NHI has over the crisis events occurring globally since 2025 I had a believe that we would be further along by this point. I was expecting this to happen much sooner. I wa only told that these ufos events would manifest on a much larger scale when the planet is awakened to the new reality. However, I do not believe we have reached that stage yet with the crisis events the world population has fully changed.

    Nevertheless, it was never stated to me that the crisis events would cease or come to an end, so I assume they will continue until a stage is reached where intervention by the nhi and rescue occurs. I believe that once the population becomes aware of the true reality, the other NHI will determine that the game is over and will depart without engaging in a destructive hot war. As for why the nhi are appearing in our skies now it is to reassure those who witness them that we are not alone no matter what control system wants you to believe.

    Asked why they acting this way currently this is least one of the reasons..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Drones hate calling them that have been reported throughout America, a fact that has been largely confirmed by Congress, not limited to just New Jersey, but also extending to Europe now. The United States entered a state of panic, prompting the media control system to disseminate fabricated stories regarding Iranian and Chinese motherships deploying drones off the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. Naturally, the public remains oblivious to the situation and never questions this, failing to recognize that this control system is releasing absurd narratives to obscure the reality of what is occurring.

    These purported drones have been observed hovering over numerous western military installations and civilian areas, yet not a single one has been intercepted. It would not be advantageous for the concealment of the UFO phenomenon to take a shot at an unidentified ship while people are watching [ I understand why] .

    This represents a new tactic employed by the control system, which is to assert that UFOs are now drones. Unsurprisingly, many individuals overlooked the fact that the White House, in its concluding statement, claimed that the drones over New Jersey were under the jurisdiction of the FAA, and the media ceased inquiries due to their controlled nature. The FAA has actually refuted this claim, but within this control system, fabricated stories are generated to obscure the truth. People asleep will move onto next topic in the news cycle.

    If you wish to believe that Russian drones have been flying over nuclear facilities and airports across Europe for two months, sometimes two or three times a week as of September, then that is your right. Look at these events not as single event but a demonstration.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Is it October yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    The fact remains that a subject once considered taboo has now entered the mainstream, with recent revelations regarding a secret segment of the government that has been involved in the crash of UFOs and the recovery of non human bodies. Whether they will disclose the complete truth to the public is uncertain; I do not know. It appears that the narrative being presented suggests a threat, which seems to emerge from a control system aimed at preparing for a confrontation with other non-human intelligences.

    The disclosure by the CIA is being framed in a manner that positions them as the good actors. Clearly, there has been a project in motion since 2017, led by Elizondo and associates, to shed light on new aspects of this subject, yet I remain uncertain about the ultimate objective of this initiative.

    My story includes a bit more detail regarding the situation. I do not possess the entire picture or every piece of information here. I was provided with some truths. What I do know is that events are in motion. Perhaps the CIA's managed disclosure serves as a means of influencing the forthcoming events from their perspective. As I mentioned earlier, the two conflicting factions have allies on the planet, yet I remain uncertain about the allegiance of Elizondo and his associates.

    This is a conspiracy forum where people will gather to discuss topics that are not typically regarded as normal. Even if you do not believe my thoughts, you can watch the narrative emerging from the government and proceed from there, whether you like it or not. It would be quite foolish to do that when most people dont believe ufos exist. Have to learn truth in ways outside of my control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Nal reply sorry forget to quote you.

    There was unexplained sightings, as I had predicted they would occur around September or October many months before it happened, and I mentioned that a crisis event would arise around may or June of 2025 . Israel and Iran entered into conflict, and this situation is not yet resolved; a second round of hostilities not far away.

    I had thought that the NHI events and crises would become clearer to everyone by October, which I now acknowledge was incorrect. I do not believe that the forthcoming events are wrong, but the timing may be. They may simply be further along the timeline. Not five or ten years away, but rather within the timeline of 2026 and early 2027. I was told the window before the Internet was fully controlled is three years and after game over for humanity for rescue. Message needs the Internet..

    What the crisis see in December or after that in 2026. I was told some things have not come to be yet about Russia and nato and china and taiwan and isreal and iran and allies again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Ye you didn’t answer my question there at all.

    Do you have these conversations with people face to face in your social/family group?

    A simple yes or no would suffice.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,276 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Cheerful

    It's screamingly obvious and detrimental to your argument / statements here that all you post is walls of text, yet you never ever ever post a tangible link to anything you argue

    Have you any idea how damaging that is to what you are saying?

    You say there has been "unexplained sightings" ? When and where were these?

    You say Israel and Iran entered into conflict. Israel and Iran have been at conflict for decades.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict

    I think your mask is beginning you slip in your posts. You swap between "I haver been told" to "my story" and "my thoughts".

    I think this is some fantasy fiction that you created in your head based on influences from modern entertainment such as the matrix, V, chthon, and it's suspiciously close to the plot of "Nuisance Value," a story by Eric Frank Russell.

    In other words... Old hat.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,780 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's drones. Police and ground staff have seen them. In one incident at Frankfurt airport it was a hobby drone operator and they were heavily fined.

    If you want to believe "aliens" are crossing interstellar space to "buzz" airports in order to annoy us, okay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    This is a discussion regarding upcoming events.There will never be any links provided concerning what is about to occur.I am disclosing the reasons behind the secrecy surrounding UFOs.

    I have already told you the events that have taken place in last year in New Jersey and Europe, where the NHI I refer to are openly showcasing some of their ships to be noticed. Although there have not yet been any daytime sightings, there is a rationale for this, as I previously explained; appearing now would provoke a very aggressive reaction from NHI and human leadership against them. This situation must be managed carefully to ensure that do not appear as the aggressor. The flashing lights from their ships serve as a means of communication, indicating that they are not hostile. They do not require these lights; they are using them so that we can recognize that there is something present in the sky.

    As I have explained, our human bodies are just avatars for existence on this planet. Consciousness is our true essence. Consciousness can inhabit bodies that are not necessarily human, which is why some of the NHI do not resemble us. This collective of nhi races collaborates to execute various missions. Among this collective, two factions of the NHI are antagonistic towards one another. One faction prefers to dominate other species, while the other advocates for the provision of free will. Essentially, the NHI present on Earth is the dominant group that influences human society and utilizes human conflict to maintain control over the Earth's population.

    Nhi ships are not crashing to Earth due to technical faults; what people dont see is that hostile actions have been undertaken. The other Nhi have not responded because they understand that a major war between the two would result in the destruction of the planet and undoubtedly harm us. I have been informed that the asteroid belt serves as evidence of this previous conflict within our solar system. Two planets engaged in warfare, with Mars being inhabited by one faction in the past, ultimately leading to the mutual destruction of their environments. The asteroid belt represents a planet that was inadvertently destroyed during this war, as it appears hit something that triggered a catastrophic reaction. The destruction of the planet was not a deliberate act, but rather an unforeseen consequence of hitting each other with weapons.

    That is not accurate. Iran has never been attacked by two foreign powers, nor have its military leaders and assets been bombed in this way inside Iran. The events that took place in 2025 were unprecedented. Furthermore, this conflict is not over a second round is not long away and will be more severe.

    I have also been informed that Russia may take action against Western Europe if supplies continue to flow into Ukraine. I assume this implies that the United States would not face a direct attack on its territory, but Russia would engage in hostile activities within European nations.

    A significant development I was made aware of is that China will launch a surprise attack on Taiwan, which would have global consequences for all nations. Saudi Arabia will align with China in this new conflict and break away from its western allies. This crisis will change the global landscape and its alliances. China will seize Taiwan, but this will also trigger the forthcoming disclosure. I suspect that the actions we observe from Trump in South America are a precursor to this event. The White House appears to be attempting to undermine Chinese interests in Venezuela and other South American countries, which will lead to unforeseen tensions between the two.

    There will be additional crisis events, but these are the major ones that will instigate a global shift. The transition to true disclosure must originate from us and our desire for it. Genuine disclosure will never arise from the controlling entities and their human collaborators; if it occurs, it will be heavily censored to create a specific narrative for you to believe in. Window of opportunity exists when internet isnt heavily censored to control the masses.

    It is a flaw with human nature to contemplate this matter. I had presumed that 2025 would be the year for mass disclosure however, as I previously mentioned, I do not have a comprehensive understanding of the strategy that the NHI are implementing to dismantle the prison system. I am only aware of certain elements that constitute the plan to end the control system. These NHI do not operate in the same manner as we do; they engage in a form of non-verbal communication, exchanging thoughts by just connecting their minds. While we once had this capability, it was stripped from us long ago to conceal information from the populace. If we could communicate in this manner, nothing would remain hidden or covered up. Both do employ tactics to obstruct the NHI from discerning their intentions, but that is a separate issue. This method of communication is significantly better and additionally, they use their this method to control many of the NHI vessels. Consciousness plays a crucial role in the navigation system of the NHI ufo craft.

    Regardless of the my claims. Elizonda and Chris mellon along with his team is readying the public for that disclosure event. The CIA does not abruptly begin revealing governmental secrets under the guise of transparency having a laugh if you believe that. They are crafting a narrative, for the world to believe in. The CIA narrative surrounding the threat has led me to be believe this is the control system's reaction to other NHI activities on Earth aimed at changing the control system. Why are they pushing this version that an NHI attempting to dismantle the prison is a threat? Are they conditioning the public to oppose the other NHI?

    Here is a new video featuring Grusch on fox news and Stratton appeared on CNN but cant locate that video right now. The story isn't going away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    To begin with, it is important to realise that anyone can purchase a drone, and apprehending an individual operating a drone in proximity to an airport not inside that area does not necessarily indicate malicious intent. Many peoplle engage in drone flying for recreational purposes. What is often overlooked and you doing is that drone sightings have been reported in Denmark, Sweden, France, Germany Belgium, and the Netherlands, indicating a significant area for hostile drone operations. Furthermore, numerous witnesses have reported seeing multiple drones, suggesting that more than one person would need to be controlling the drones simultaneously. It is strange to consider why Denmark would issue a national address regarding a drone sighting as this seems illogical. Additionally, we are aware that in Belgium, drone defense measures were implemented in response to sightings, yet no takedown occurred. This serves as further evidence that saying it was drones it not true. Yes not every drone sighting can be attributed to UAP/UFO, but thats another story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Multiple people can control multiple drones.

    For example, Russians have been linked to "plausibly deniable" covert actions across Europe. More often than not those suspected or charged aren't even Russian. How hard is it to pay a bunch of people to fly drones near an airport.

    To delve into the "aliens" stuff. Achieving interstellar travel is far, far beyond anything we know. It's mind bogglingly complex, physics-bending stuff. We have stealth technology now - imagine what our stealth technology would be in 10,000 years of development. To think that an extremely advanced race, far beyond anything we can imagine, are "hanging around" at airports to spook us is just.. yeah.

    If extra-terrestrials really were here we wouldn't have any notion of it, they certainly wouldn't be traversing light years of space only to crash in corn fields. Or to get involved in "murdering" people. Or to get their spaceships impounded (This is literally stuff that "whistle blower" Dave Grusch has suggested)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭rock22


    "Yes not every drone sighting can be attributed to UAP/UFO, but thats another story."

    I assume the aliens are denying all knowledge of this!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,780 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    The reason for this is to prevent premature escalation. This is why they behave in ways that appear to be invisible. The main point is that they are very indifferent to being dismissed right now.

    It serves as a form of pressure on the control system and creates friction, disrupts the powers and causes them to become upset. Full-scale visibility would inevitably provoke a large Nhi reaction that they dont want, but it is permissible for them to operate in this manner as long as the majority of the population is not observing.

    The activities they are engaged in have real world repercussions, prompting them to devise strategies to avoid open conflict between the two groups. Both factions are capable of engaging in battle seen by everyone; what implications does this hold for the souls confined here? They are also attempting to dismantle traps that keep everyone on this planet. These traps have the potential to transport us to another physical realm after we die. Destroying the planet doesn’t help.

    The nhi interest in our liberation stems from the fact that we are the ancestors of this collective.. We were taken here as prisoners of war a long time ago, and our souls are exploited as a resource to sustain this expansion. We are their family, who have become ensnared in this after by the after life trap system. They desire our return and wish to reveal our true identities. The trap technology is exceedingly intricate and can only be perceived after death.

    More intricate than extraterrestrial beings from different worlds coming here they also exist in dimensions and timelines that are beyond our comprehension. There are even artificial intelligence species that have evolved. They function in the physical realm as well, utilizing avatars. In reality, we are aliens possessing souls, yet we remain oblivious to this reality because our memories are erased after death. The accounts of individuals observing themselves after death are indeed accurate. That is your authentic self coming out, but you are confronted by a deception that forces you back to the planet to begin again.

    The reality that Grusch is disclosing is indeed accurate. They do have NHI crafts and entities. However, I am uncertain whether he is capable of revealing everything or if he is even aware of the NHI's influence on crash retrieval legacy program. He is at least aware that these UFO legacy programs exist in secrecy and are genuine. If he is informed about the other matters I have mentioned, he has not yet engaged in a discussion regarding them. Personally, I believe that such a conversation would not be well-received by the public, particularly the notion that some members of humanity have entered into agreements with NHI for technology. The downing of crafts would imply that we have acted aggressively on behalf of another group. Nhi are aware that others are using humans to act on their behalf and keeping the cold war in place.

    We simply must hold a differing opinion regarding the drone operations over America and Europe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,503 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    That question has been asked, and ignored, many times. Dont waste your time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Definitely not a religion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,485 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    I have a blister on my thumb from fast-scrolling the AI waffle.

    Not your ornery onager



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