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US declassification of the biggies

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    So your source is Aliens that you communicate with…



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,740 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    @Cheerful S

    I will ask you again in good faith, what is the source of this "knowledge" you claim to have when you say "as far as you know"??

    Do you get phone calls? Emails? Postcards?

    Or messages directly into your brain?

    How do you know the source is NHI and not something else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    At least we can remove the Epstein conspiracy. Nothing to see here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,267 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Trump saying what ever files exist '' are made up by Obama, made up by Biden, made up by Comey ''

    All made up. Must be something in there on him , for him to claim this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Epstein Island is Trump Country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,168 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    So let me get this straight - there's nothing in the files, but if there is something in there, it's made up "by the other side".

    If it was made up by the other side, why didn't they use it the past 4 years? If not, what was the point of making it up

    Personally I don't think there's anything insanely dramatic in the Epstein files - but the Trump administration and whole GOP machine are acting so incredibly dodgy about this whole thing that even their cult like followers are questioning them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    The whole thing is so dumb, a bunch of self proclaimed moral warriors thought a complete and utter degenerate was going to deliver them justice and it has blown up in their face.

    I'm willing to accept that there is no list or nice neat bunch of files that will spell out who is a pedo and who isn't, instead there may be some pieces of evidence that could be used to build a case, and everyone Epstein met isn't necessarily a pedo. I don't expect potential evidence to be made public because of public outcry or the severity of the crime, in this case I would like to have a status update on whether a case can be made against people who was part of a network close to Epstein.

    But we have had a movement that convinced themselves that they were part of something wider in a crusade against evil, they placed their faith in a man who was a well known associate of Epstein. Two sycophants who peddled all kinds of conspiracies around Epstein were appointed to the FBI and now we are supposed to believe them when they say there is nothing to see, someone in the DOJ decided to give binders to podcasters deemed suitable with the promise f more info that day which ended up being a Rick Roll on twitter.

    Now we are told these files were made up by people the president doesn't like. Whether Trump is in the files or not, the behavior of his administration toward the matter is disgraceful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    They should release the TFK files.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,267 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Where are all the Epstein girls. Surely they can enlighten everyone as to who was involved. Are they all paid off to keep quiet. It makes them part of the cover up if so. I know some for sure are backing the nothing to see here, and are fully okay with their life choices back then.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,043 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, the abused people might be afraid to come forward?

    Would you come forward and have a giant target painted on your back? Would you want to risk being sued or god forbid, go the same way as Epstein himself?



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,740 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    their "life choices" ???

    WTAF !!!

    you DO know Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail right now for 20 years for sex trafficking offences against underage children.

    and you want names? try Sarah Ransome or Maria Farmer or Jennifer Araoz or Annie Farmer or Priscilla Doe.

    your ignorance is outstanding



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Just some classic victim blaming.

    I wonder why some women would be afraid to come forward against the rich, powerful elite individuals who were involved in this? I mean what could possibly go wrong for the victims?

    One of the perpetrators is the literal President of the USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I wondered when we'd see the "life choices"/"well compensated" crap that MAGA shitheads have been trying on social media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,267 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    DUDE, it's not me saying this. Some of the women involved are. It's not my opinion whatsoever, it's theirs.

    Geez, attack them over their defending of what went on. I'm not defending it, geez.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,267 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Not MAGA

    And not me defending. I would LOVE to see it all come out, and all involved pay the price. I'm just stating facts that there are those involved who are keeping secrets and protecting people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,267 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    No point in arguing with me about their stance on things.

    Even to this day many Epstein girls plead the Fifth, as they were involved with Epstein since age of 15, and with many other powerful people, but were still involved when they hit the magic age of 18, these women defend their actions, they also obtained many other girls for Epstein. So they plead the Fifth, as to protect the powerful, and themselves, and even to this day live lavishly, maybe still on the payroll. They don't see themselves as victims, this seems to drive you mad, and others.

    I think they were, and are still manipulated to this day. But they defend it with '' I knew what I was doing, I was 16, not 6 ''



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    It is literally you on here saying it though?

    I know some for sure are backing the nothing to see here, and are fully okay with their life choices back then.

    You're even stating it as if it's a total fact. So it is very much your opinion and one you are stating you know as a fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,267 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I know for sure, as it's fact. Google it, there are many involved from ages of 15, who were still involved in their 20's , and obtained others for Epstein, are they victims or accomplices … Even in the eyes of the law they were accomplices, but made deals, and pleaded the Fifth.

    There are many uncomfortable truths in this story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    They are victims of child sex trafficking and grooming.

    If you want to continue to victim blame and deny you're doing so that's your prerogative just know majority can see through this charade.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    But we've been told it's a hoax; move on, nothing to see here.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Mod: Enough of the victim blaming. @BorneTobyWilde do not post in this thread again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    At the end of the day, how the information was obtained will be judged by the current understanding of the world at this time. I can explain it but never believe it anyway. I know that what I am saying now is not believable for you people, so why would I want to compound that problem further?

    Second part

    Are the things I explained here the truth? The collapse of the system as we know in its entirety hasn't yet taken place in a way that is noticeable to everyone.

    Again i was told in 2024 a serious of crisis events would unfold over the summer and escalate was given the timeline around June or July [high tension events] early start or the beginning period of a system collapse.

    The one thing that I took from this is that more and more people would begin to see how corrupted the world political system and geopolitics really are. There will be an increasing distrust that will grow in every aspect of life. There was posts I had about this in 2024. I think the world right now is fracturing in some ways over current crisis events. I think we can see that even in the debates that take place in these forums.

    War?

    Is it going to escalate to the level of World War Three. In terms of a crystal ball, I don't have one. I have been told that if Europe escalated its support for Ukraine, there would be a Russian response into western Europe as a result. I was told by Nhi that the Russian response would be a reaction to what western powers do. There was no indication of a timeline given to me, only that this would take place if the timeline does not veer off from its current path we are on.

    There is no doubt that the division of global society over the last year to this point has pretty much proven to me that had the ability to see what was coming here.

    Again message was can be free from this prison planet when seek their help not before. It is not possible for them to intervene until the situation is in such a state that people are aware that the whole system is built on lies. It is again for this reason that there is no landing on the lawn of the White House. They fought wars like humans did for hundreds of thousands of years, perhaps millions in some cases, and they simply have no interest in blowing up this entire planet to free us. As a result of the last war being very brutal, there has been a truce in the area of space. It was as a result of this war that Mars became an uninhabitable planet.

    The nhi is willing to help the human race when we wake up and realise be living on prison planet. Currently, the system controls all public knowledge of what this planet is. There almost a feeling of hatred and disdain about the UFO phenomenon among many in the human population, since the control system has brainwashed them into believing it can't possibly exist and all is false information. All of these forms of control have been employed by the NHI in various ways for thousands of years, and are only able to be saved by carrying out certain tasks. A nhi religious sighting is all about manipulating the masses into doing certain things so they can get into heaven or what afterlife experience they believe exists. Big lie in all this, that there no human afterlife. Afterlife is the prison. You send back again into the trap after you die. Due to the fact that they are not trapped here in this world, the Nhi experience what we call the afterlife.

    All existence is made up of both good and bad nhi, and this is the reality of all existence. Unfortunate reality we live in a area that is being controlled by bad NHI right now. Partly reason world is never ever at peace because they are nhi demons that feed of our negative energy on this planet.

    When will system of collapse occur and be known to all. Again dont have all knowledge of every event that will take place here. All I know is that acceleration in contact will occur when humans are ready for it. I was told that the timeline must be met otherwise bad nhi will lock down this planet forever through Internet censorship and media control, thereby prohibiting discussion on all topics across the entire Internet. Demon nhi along with their human groups want everyone in the world to remain in the dark and to keep things as they are today. Everybody goes to work, pays their taxes, and feeds the capitalist system in a normal way.

    There are some humans who are happy to keep things the same because they live in certain areas of the world that live in a good environment, however, this is not the case for every person, and in the end, you are not given a choice whether you want to leave or stay when you die. We are all forced to stay and our existence is wiped out to start all over again. There is a cruel part about the prison planet that takes your identity away from you and makes you believe that one existence on earth is all there is to life. It's basically stealing a part of your soul each time you're sent back to that false reality

    It is possible for the outcome of this all to be completely different because there are two forces at work here that are both trying to influence the planet differently. Demon nhi aware of what is gomg on too but can't intervene because they expose themselves too to the human population. Covert war going on here behind the scenes. As a result, some of this played out in New Jersey when the non-demon NHI tried for weeks to interrupt the control system by performing tests. As a result, the control system using the US government released a false narrative that Iran's mother ships releasing drones over the sea, that Chinese antigravity drones were coming over the sea too, but of course, the public didn't realize what that meant claiming this was anti gravity technologies because they were brainwashed. There was a terrorist attack that involved a Tesla car outside Trump tower. This was control system to prevent people from talking about what was actually happening in the skies. Same guy who did car explosion claimed the drones were Chinese antigravity drones. Humans are trapped and don't understand how these narratives coming out of US government make no sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    How does some clown who burned a tesla in front of a building, who fell for morons not being able to identify planes in New Jersey get to know of this secret plan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You say we won’t believe it, why not try us? We may surprise you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    You do state that a NHI told you this Cheerful. And honestly, it concerns me a little. I'm not saying this in a mean and I genuinely mean this. You should very much so consider talking to a professional about this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    The collapse was never said to end by the end of July, nor did I say that it would be over by then. As I said back in 2024, there would be a high level of tension in the months of the summer around June or July of 2025.

    The fact is that Israel attacked Iran in June of this year, and now we have stuff like Epstein in July of this year. Think my message was accurate.

    Only said the NHI would intervene when the system fully collapsed and was told around October to expect more appearances from the NHI. I was given period between June up till end of october that there would be more nhi events in the sky.

    It is my understanding that the NHI is trying to free us, and they are working with insiders in the human governments to release information about hidden UFOs. As far as I know, all of this has been happening behind the scenes.

    In the end, all I know for certain is that a nhi plan has been put in place to destabilize the prison system in different ways, and that i am unsure of the extent to which it has advanced today. End of day out of our hands NHI who decided it was time to free this planet, they have their own agenda in terms of timeline here.

    As far as I am aware, there will be more NHI activity by the end of October, so that's the timeline I am aware of, but I can't give any more information than that.

    The story I was told what that took place in New Jersey and at some other places is that NHI sent probes very smaller craft to see how the control system would react and how it would perform. Was all a test to see what false stories would be out out by the control system. It is very important for people to understand that the control system has the media in its pocket. They control the narratives. The control system started talking about crazy stuff when hundreds of people began seeing drones flying over their houses in population centres. Iranian military ships were allegedly releasing drones off the coasts of America and even Congresspeople claimed this on television, only for them to release stories that it was Chinese antigravity drones too. There are a lot of people who are too dumb to wonder how the Chinese created an antigravity drone when that's a new world physics. There was a panic in the control system, and crazy stories came up to explain what was happening. This was only a test. End of the day a controlled population will be hostile to this nhi. There is no way they are going to be able to convince 8 billion people to think of them as friendly when control system had a lock down like this.

    You have breakdown this control system in different ways and thats happening on their timeline

    Trust me people think i need medical supervision already. Why would i bother revealing how got this information. The claims I make will be shown to be either false or true in time. It's not an ever-ending discussion that can be carried on for ever and ever. As Nhi has set in motion the process of liberating this planet, then have set specific goals in order to do so. I expect more sightings and intrusions like new jersey to come anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Yes speak to a professional asap



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    I didn’t ask for more paragraphs of nonsense just asking you to tell us how this was communicated?



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