Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

It'll make no difference. Still costs us a fortune. They get 30 days and 38 quid a week.. Then they walk out of state accommodation. Get someone to give them a room for 600 a month on the ARP or move in with a mate and stroll straight into the dole office and get put on 240 a week.

If we have "legal obligations" to give them money it should be 38 euro and that's it.

It occurs on both sides, the open border crowd and the xenophobic anti-immigration also lump all groups together. What is missing is some sort of balance in the middle where you have immigration of people who can contribute at a level which does not cause a rapidly increasing population and a housing crisis.

From the weekend’s Ireland thinks poll of over 1600 people in the Sunday Independent

Pretty stark indication there of the level of dissatisfaction among the general public on this issue

Those 346 should be tracked down, the money taken back and then they are deported with 20 year ban on returning to the country.

With the fall out from the presidential result and Simon Harris' recent comments is the whole Immigrant debate finally coming to a head here and in the UK?

There have been so many incidents lately it feels like it. It was front and center when Mount Street and the canal became tent city but I personally think it'll be a few week of soundbites and then business as usual.

In terms of any vision or real idea that would be palatable for Joe and Josephine soap no government (or potential government) offers anything. The horse bolted years ago, we've (they've) made our bed and we've now in for a penny in for many many pounds€€€.

No major surprises there, the govt take over hotels and put refugees in them. The resultant starves the local economies of much needed tourism and employment and services that everybody needs such as medical care. All the while we need to pay more taxes to maintain it.

When the people complain about this happening they are lumped in with the far-right which only furthers the support of the far-right as people think they are listening to them

Their country needs these hotels to be turned back into hotels

Asylum immigration is not the issue for many people, it's the hotels being taken over, which to my knowledge hasn't come down at all this year

Yep, not that this wasn’t all said over 2 years ago, right here on this site even

Was all dismissed as “far right” fearmongering and dismissed out of hand. It has all turned out to be 100% true.

Of course all of the ideologue naysayers that shouted everything down have disappeared as it’s become more and more apparent that they were completely and utterly wrong - small consolation when the damage has already been done

Some hotels in Dublin have returned to normal service for tourists but the asylum seekers then need to be housed elsewhere.

Here is some data on successful AS who remain in IPAS accomm:

Google search:

As of April 2024, there were approximately 

5,644 successful asylum seekers

 (those who had been granted status, such as refugee status or subsidiary protection) living in International Protection Accommodation Service (IPAS) accommodation. It is important to note that while many people have left IPAS accommodation, it is difficult to track how many have successfully moved into new housing. 

https://www.esri.ie/news/recognised-refugees-are-struggling-to-leave-government-accommodation-due-to-both-mainstream

Just heard Sinéad Gibney on rte radio 1 discussing the issue

Hysterical, unhinged commentary from her, totally detached from reality

Was hilariously ironic to hear her complaining that the government were conflating Asylum seekers with general migration when her and her ilk did the exact same disingenuous BS in reverse when this issue began to rear its head

“The Asylum system is dysfunctional and exceeding its capacity”
was met with
“So you want to our health system to collapse??”

Enjoy the taste of your own medicine you nutter Sinéad

That's nice for anybody looking to stay in Dublin, the vast majority of the ones outside of Dublin are still ipas centers

Why does nobody call out this change of tac ?

So many people, not just here, quietly showed serious reservations about what was happening. The waste of money, the transfer of wealth from state to private individuals, the nonsense of so many claims for refugee status, the useless system for removing those who failed to gain access, the blurring of lines between visa system migrants we want and the immigrants we absolutely don't want or need. The taxes diverted to those who shouldn't be here at the expense of taxpayers and infrastructure. And you would be labelled racist for pointing out the obvious.

After 4 years, suddenly people can talk about it openly and media and the politicians tell us they were saying this all along.

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