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Northern Ireland 2125?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Just over a century ago there were plenty of cases of Protestants in Cork from their houses to Britain, with just a suitcase, leaving all else behind as there were numerous murders of Protestants and other Protestants "disappeared" by republicans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,087 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You can tell that to all those you are going to abandon to their fates.

    We long ago figured out you don't really care a jot about any of them.

    All you care about is a little vainglorious partitionist win and as we seen with your sectarian chant, you'll stoop to any depths to convince yourself you got a win. Bravo!

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Not sure what you are so upset about? I asked FrancieBrady the question " Putting the boot on the other foot, what would you have thought if there was a fund in Scotland to get Irish settlers, the typical Glascow Celtic supporters, to leave Scotland and go home, after all the famine is over?" 

    Maybe it is the 4 words at the end that upsets you "the famine is over"? Is that worse than the chant of Kneecap, "Every word of Irish is a bullet for Irish Freedom"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    You say I do not care about the victims of republicanism, like the people above. Wrong, I care about all victims.

    You still have not answered the question. In the interests of equality, what would you think of a fund to get Scottish based Glasgow Centic supports repatriated from Scotland to Ireland , seeing as you are advocating a fund to get N.I. Rangers siupporters relocated across the water too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,087 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    No, you don't.

    You have adequately shown you don't. You couldn't give a damn what happens to people, even to Unionists. You are too interested in winning some fantasy battle about the past still ongoing in your messed up head.

    You have zero regard for even your own dignity never mind the dignity of anyone else. You are now trying to defend a pathetic sectarian attempt to provoke rather than deal with suggesting solutions for people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Ironic you claim I do not care about the victims of Republicanism when I condemn both loyalist and republican paramilitaries : the only paramilitaries you condemn are of course the loyalists.

    You still have not answered the question. In the interests of equality, what would you think of a fund to get Scottish based Glasgow Centic supports repatriated from Scotland to Ireland , seeing as you are advocating a fund to get N.I. Rangers siupporters relocated across the water too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    Yes, the sectarian chant you added to your post is what demonstrated exactly what sort of person you are. You've yet to answer how your question to Francie would've changed if you hadn't added it, or what reason you had for including it?

    When I post anything along the lines of the quote you've included to deflect once more, you can call me out on it (considering you've got months of mileage out of that line, I'm sure you will), and you can get to asking my opinions on things others have said when you stop deflecting and answer a question yourself for once.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Stop deflecting. I aske FrancieBrady the question anyway, not you. If you are offended by four words of a question which you interpret as a chant, that is your problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    Four words which just happen to be a sectarian chant specifically used by a particularly scummy subsect of the rival fans of the club you were talking about....who do you think you're kidding pretending there was no other intent, Francis? Wouldn't be surprised if you've chanted them a few times at Ibrox before and all.

    I'll be sure to point out they're, 'only ten words' the next time you're off on one of your whinges about Kneecap though. What's good for the goose and all that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    I was never at Ibrox in my life and I almost certainly never will be as I have no desire to go there. Stop deflecting. I am looking at things from their point of view. Being devils advocate.

    I asked Francis Brady what would he think of a fund to get Scottish based Glasgow Centic supports repatriated from Scotland to Ireland, seeing as he is advocating a fund to get N.I. Rangers supporters relocated across the water too? Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. I was explaining that their point of view - the Rangers type supporters, who would be of the opinion the famine is over, why don't they go home - is a mirror image of FrancieBradys equally sectarian opinions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    Course you were, Francis. It's there in black and white for everyone to see what you think and I'll remind you they're just words the next time you're off on one of your tedious copy/paste sessions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭csirl


    This thread seems to be dissappearing down a rabbit hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    More off a cliff edge than down a rabbit hole.....I keep telling myself to not bother but still occasionally get dragged back in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,087 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    what would he think of a fund to get Scottish based Glasgow Centic supports repatriated from Scotland to Ireland,

    That question might be relevant if Celtic supporters said they could not live in Scotland.

    You'll stoop to anything to avoid dealing with your own hypocrisy and spinning. @Fionn1952 is bang on the money here and you start the twisting again trying to handwave away another revealing sectarian nosedive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭mattser


    Are you new around here csirl ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    A NI funded by both UK and ROI per percentage of GDP as an independent self governing principality, would probably be a far too common sense approach for both sides.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,087 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    100 years of failure says no, it can never govern itself.

    Why waste any more effort sustaining a failed partition



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    For a good part of those 100 years there was a section of the community determined to bomb N.I. down, destroy tourism, who kidnapped and murdered foreign industrialists who wanted to invest there etc.

    (a) We here "in the south" or in the 26 counties or whatever you want to call it struck it lucky by investment / handouts from the EU - now stopped, we are having to pay in to the EU now to support eastern bloc countries

    (b) foreign multinationals attracted by tax breaks, grants, English language and access to EU markets - outlook looks fragile in a changing world, esp. since Trump's tariffs etc

    (c) tax from foreign companies bringing worldwide profits to be taxed in Ireland eg Apple 12 billion. Not sustainable

    (d) tourism, much more advanced than N.I. ….but this year was a poor season and some say we have priced ourselves out of it. Oone estimate states up to 32% of tourist beds are being used for housing refugees. The Irish Tourism Industry Confederation has stated that 50% of tourist beds in County Donegal were being used for this purpose as of March 2023. 

    On top of all that, Ireland's national debt remains one of the highest in the world at €42,000 per capita, the Department of Finance's report on public debt shows. Only Japan, Belgium and Italy have higher levels of borrowings per person. And you want to take over N.I. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Well from the spins I had up there, the population in general of NI seem happy. Compared to an obvious underlying tension in the air just a few decades ago. Nothing scientific just the general vibe, as the outsider looking in.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,087 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    People get on with it because they are used to it.

    Devolved government will fail again, only a matter of time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    In fairness, 'doing better compared to a few decades ago' isn't a particularly high bar to set when that bar is NI of the 70s and 80s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Early 2000’s I am talking about not 70’s 80’s.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,642 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Could be sooner than we think

    Sinn Féin MLA Deirdre Hargey has confirmed her party will support an Assembly motion of no confidence in Education Minister, Paul Givan.

    “The Education Minister’s decision to travel to Israel and use departmental resources to promote that trip is both inappropriate and unacceptable.” said Ms Hargey. "In the past two years alone, Israel has murdered more than 20,000 children and 500 teachers and destroyed nearly every educational facility in Gaza. No Minister should associate themselves with Israel's genocide, ethnic cleansing, forced starvation and illegal occupation. Sinn Féin will support the motion of no confidence in Paul Givan when it comes before the Assembly.”

    "Paul Givan is going nowhere" says DUP leader Gavin Robinson

    @GRobinsonDUP Paul Givan is going nowhere. Unionists will not be bullied by the whims of the Pan-Republican front.

    I choose who serves as a DUP Minister and whatever about the faux outrage and petty politicking, Paul has my full support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,087 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Whenever the DUP don't get their way and lose a democratic vote they whinge about the 'pan republican front.

    A phrase straight from the bigoted agitation of Jamie Bryson.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Nearly as bad as during the 1970s when republicans don't get their way and lose a democratic vote they whingle about the "pan unionist front", one as YOU would call it, the one party bigoted sectarian state 😂😂😆

    The "bigoted one party sectarian state" is a phrase from the ultra bigoted agitation of FrancieBrady, because it was not a one party bigoted sectarian state.

    In the '74 elections up North for example, poll was 68.5%, so far better than our last election here 9 days ago. Seven UUP, One SDLP, Three VUPP (vanguard unionist progressive party), one DUP all got elected. Some other unionist parties like United Ulster Unionist party on 5.7% of the vote did not, nor did Independent nationalist on 4.7% of the vote. No SF of course.

    At least Jamie Bryson does not say there is no alternative to violence when he does not get his way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,087 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    How they expect their counterparts to stand over them going on Executive resources to sing the praises of a state that had just killed tens of 1000's of children and wiped out every school in Gaza as well as all the other crimes of their genocide?

    Wasn't just Givan either,

    Sammy Wilson (DUP)

    David Brooks (DUP MLA)

    Ben Mallon (DUP MLA)

    Steve Aiken (Ulster Unionist MLA)

    Ron McDowell (TUV deputy leader)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Democratic vote?

    Non-unionist parties got 39% of the vote yet only 1 of the 12 seats!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Your maths leave a lot to be desired. Non unionist parties got an awful lot less than 39% of the vote in the '74 Westminster elections. Look it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Choochtown




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Republican / nationalist parties were 22 and 4.7 and 3.1 %.



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