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Luas Finglas

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,329 ✭✭✭Daith


    You might be expecting too much from one Luas stop in Finglas South



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,319 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Hasn't done much for some of the Saggart branch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I could see people buying houses there as investments and renting them out rather than settling there and raising kids.

    Foreigners would have no problem renting there as they'd have no idea of Finglas's reputation and it would be just 20 minutes from town with good public transport.

    So quite quickly it could change demographically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Crumlin had a tougher edge but it was never as bad as Finglas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,329 ✭✭✭Daith


    Ultimately this should be good for Finglas and Charlestown.

    I've seen some commentary that this will "unlock" housing, but Finglas is built up as it is and with the changes to Jamestown Business Centre to Housing, and Broombridge Industrial Estate to housing, it'll be a busy line.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    If both those industrial estates develop, then the population will explode.

    I presume that's the primary reason of this Luas line, to entice developers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭spillit67


    I know a few people from leafy south Dublin who have bought up around in anticipation of the Luas.

    Most gentrification impacts of Luas were delayed by the GFC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Crumlin was always gentrified compared to West Finglas...lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Cabra, Phibsborough, Crumlin and Drimnagh have all gentrified a bit because of the Luas.

    Perhaps also the East and North sides of Tallaght.

    It'll be interesting to see what Finglas will be like in 10 years. The East part is already fine.

    The South part might gentrify next as it's right by the Luas and Park.

    The Glasnevin industrial estate also will be redeveloped over time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭gjim


    It’s about 60% according to the business case document. I can’t find a hard reference for the 600m number - it looks like all the reporters just copied the number from each other. It looks like they rounded the P60 number from the business case doc up to the nearest 100m. The numbers include contingency for cost overruns so don’t represent estimated construction cost.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭OisinCooke


    I agree here, I suspect it’s another case of Irish Times style journalism when it comes to rounding it to the nearest clickbait number. But I don’t think this is necessarily bad. If the number that the papers are rounding up from was already higher than necessary for overruns and delays, and with a time expectancy of 2031 for opening, the likely worst thing the project will do, is come in on time and at budget, and it likely could be a case of being ahead of time and under budget, which will only help the public’s opinions on these Luas projects. So overall, while it looks bad now, the project is approved and will get built, so a high cost and time estimate doesn’t actually matter, and could actually work in its favour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,315 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    The more exciting part of the project from my POV is the new walking and cycling facilities. DCC's long war on the city and it's people, especially the working class areas, has seen all the greenspace and easier pedestrian routes fenced off or made inaccessible for bikes or those with reduced mobility. The design seems to show a real opening up of a lot of the mobility barriers. We just have to remain vigilant as DCC could well come in after TII and try to fence us out of our public greenspaces again. They'd put gates across the actual luas tracks if they thought they could get away with it.



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