Northern Ireland 2125?

Not all Irish people were equal in the bigoted one party FFG sectarian state you keep going on about. Back in the mid 20th century, only Irish speakers could get jobs in the public service. Gay people went to England or America. Jews left Ireland. Extremely few Protestants got public sector jobs after DeValera said if he had one job and 2 applicants, a protestant and a catholic, he would always give the job to the catholic. Black people were not welcome in Ireland so no extremely few blacks came. I love to see all people getting equal treatment, but just because you get big government grants in the arts does not mean everyone should get big government grants.

Not even if you want to do your interperative dance at the crossroads as gaelige.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

The 20% is a political aspirstion with no legal compulsion. At the moment zero efforts have been made to progress this. If anything, recruitmenf policies are moving away from this as more non-Irish people are being encouraged to join the civil service.

An Coimisinéir Teanga Séamas Ó Concheanainn described the increase as “encouraging”, adding that the increased presence and visibility of Irish “is a promising sign for the strengthening of the Irish language nationally”.

“The growth of Irish language media and the additional revenue streams created by the legislation are welcome,” he said.

The Official Languages Act, first introduced in 2003, and amended in 2021, aims to strengthen the language rights of the Irish-speaking community by improving the provision of public services in Irish.

Section 10A of the Act, which sets out minimum spending thresholds on Irish language advertising, is viewed as a crucial support for the expanding Irish language media industry.

More broadly, increased Irish language content across Irish and English language media sectors plays an important role in increasing the visibility of the language in the public sphere as a whole.

The report is the second audit that the Office of the Language Commissioner has published on the implementation of section 10A of the Act.

Good to see this and it will no doubt be of assistance to the new Commissioner in Belfast, as he makes the best practice case for the importance of the 'visibility' of the language,

That is simply not true. If it was there would not have been the huge controversy when a public sector job as a librarian was given to a Protestant in Co. Mayo. DeValera did say in the Dail that if he had one job and 2 applicants, one a protestant and one a catholic, he would always give the job to the catholic. And if what you claimed was true, the protestant % of the population would not have been decimated in 20th century Ireland. There would have been protestants in the Gardai and army in the mid 20th century in the 26 counties.

I do not seriously think anyone would believe your revisionism, csirl.

Librarians arent civil servants and a President/Taoiseach has no say in hiring them - who knows if this anecdote is even true.

Many Garda families today have a strong RIC heritage.

All through the 20th century a high % of senior civil servants had a COI background. Some do today. In past eras graduates came in at mid management level and were accelerated to the senior ranks. A higher % of grafuates came from a COI background - reflecting society at the time and the fact that one of the major universities in Dublin had a COI ethos (TCD).

Librarians are public servants. When a Protestant was appointed as a librarian in Co. Mayo in 1930 there was huge controversy and she had to leave the job. Letitia Dunbar Harrison was unacceptable to the group because she was a Protestant and educated at Trinity College. The majority of the members of the sub-committee did not believe she could be trusted with providing a proper library service for the Catholic people of Mayo.

De Valera said during the War of Independence that Protestants were “not Irish people”, and in the Dail in 1930 he said that if he had a vote on a local body between a Protestant and a Catholic in a Catholic community he “would unhesitatingly vote for the Catholic.” So not surprising little or no public servants in mid 20th century Ireland were Protestants, and that the Protestant percentage of the population declined dramatically.

Any of the Garda families today that have a strong RIC linkage have ancestors who were Catholics in the RIC.

Nobody is claiming there is discrimination against religious minorities in Ireland nowadays.

Whenever you grasp the concept of ‘visibility’ ( one of the responsibilities of the Commissioners) you may be able to get your head around why more and more people are interested in both creating in Irish and in engaging with it.

Suppressing the language was a process in colonies, re-vitalising that language is also a process. Irish ads are just a part of a bigger process like road signs.
Get used to it because there is going to be much more as a new Commissioner gets to work.

Would you be in favour of deporting all loyalists and protestans to Britain?

The enduring persecution complex of loyalism as they are faced with living in an equal society.

If there was a U.I., they would be out / have their numbers reduced, same as happened here in the 26 counties a century ago though intimidation, the odd murder, the requirement of Irish language to get a job etc. You yourself let your mask slip when you said if there was a U.I. the protestants / loyalists would be paid to leave, to resettle in mainland Britain or wherever. When pressed on who would pay for it, you said that would be up to the British of course. A U.I. would not be a fair and eqial society any more than DeValera dancing at the crossroads was an equal society here in the 1930s or 1940s.

You are quite right. A united Ireland will not happen.

Arlene Foster is long retired from being a MP, she is currently in her mid fifties and if there was a U.I. in 20 or 30 years time she would certainly not be "abandoning" those who many decades earlier elected her as MP. There would be other politicians to represent them. If there was a U.I. I'd say she would feel quite threatened, seeing as she / her family already survived two IRA murder attempts, and knowing what republicans are historically like, in their quest for a gaelic socialist Ireland without people like her.

Putting the boot on the other foot, what would you have thought if there was a fund in Scotland to get Irish settlers, the typical Glascow Celtic supporters, to leave Scotland and go home, after all the famine is over?

Any idea of a moral high ground you might think you have about anti-British sentiment anywhere in Ireland just jumped right out the window with your, 'the famine is over' chirp. The mask has dropped and unsurprisingly you're the equal and opposite of the bigotry you claim to oppose.

Whatever you've said in the past, I'd be very curious where you're from; even the most self-hating, hand the keys back and doff-the-cap to the British of Irish people I've met would be repulsed by the sentiment you've just expressed.

SO WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE FOR THOSE NOT IN A FINANCIAL POSITION TO LEAVE?

Don't accuse others of not answering questions when you have been avoiding this ^ one for years now.

Perhaps give us an example of how you would envisage your scheme working, you are the one who proposed it. Who would be "not in a financial position to leave"? Who cannot afford a ten pound ticket on Easyjet. or a place on the ferry? The crossing from Ireland to Scotland is considerably shorter than the width of the English channel. Maybe you envisage some rubber boats like the over 100,000 migrants fleeing the EU from the other direction arrive in?

In the mid-1800s, the British government provided tickets and financial support for some tenants from some estates in Ireland to emigrate, particularly to North America. If they can help people irrespective of religion to emigrate then to Canada etc , says you, they can help people in the event of a U.I. if conditions will be as bad then, as you seemingly envisage?

What financial incentives do you envisage republicans forcing the British government to relocate the people the 8 miles / 13 km across the stretch of water between N. Ireland and Scotland?

If conditions got very uncomfortable for people of Irish descent in Scotland, what would you think if there was a fund in Scotland to get Irish settlers, the typical Glascow Celtic supporters, to leave Scotland and go home? ie the same as your scheme, but going the other way, and funded by the Irish government of course seeing as you expected the British to fund the scheme going the other way?

I do not think you have quite thought out your U.I. and your various schemes yet.

Aye, now we'll have to read your nonsense that moving would entail packing a suitcase and a 10 pound flight with Easyjet.
That is as much of a reply that notion deserves.

And again you furiously spin to try and find an angle.

It is those who say 'they could not live in a UI' who are doing the 'envisaging'.

Still no solutions offered again, I note. Plenty of pivots and attempts to divert, no solutions.