Northern Ireland 2125?

The cost of translation in the EU is irrelevent to a UI. Its the same whether or not there is a UI.

The cost of translation in NI and the UK would go down in a UI. Oireachtas legislation etc is already translated, hoeever there'll be no need to translate UK or stormont legislation as it will no longer apply.

I never even once drove between Ballymoney and Ballymena.....cut all funding to the roads in the area. Won't someone think of healthcare?!

Aye, I've been involved in the music scene most of my life, I'm well used to hearing it. Funding for anything I don't like or use should be stopped because it would be better spent on healthcare......but don't apply the same logic to the things I do like and use, they're clearly important because reasons.

You are too late with your objections (which are of course only on financial grounds 🙄) this has all been agreed and signed off on.

Signage is rolling out across the jurisdiction. Irish Language Commissioner and Ulster-Scots Commissioner and staff have been appointed as democratically agreed and are beginning work.

*That irate Unionist, also only objecting on financial grounds, raised his scare in 2017…all forgotten about for the nonsense it was, until dug out of the archives to support somebody else's objection on financial grounds here on boards.ie.

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2 billion over 20 years for the Irish language in N.Ireland

*That irate Unionist, also only objecting on financial grounds, raised his scare in 2017…all forgotten about for the nonsense it was, until dug out of the archives to support somebody else's objection on financial grounds here on boards.ie.

So tarring an objector as a "unionist" and calling him "irate" only denigrates him further,

He was a DUP politician. See the 'U' in DUP. He made himself cross fantasising about the 'billions' of money being spent. (not)

The irate Unionist was telling porkies about the costs. Nobody ever repeated them because they were false…a figment of his angry bigoted wee head.

Signage is rolling out across the jurisdiction. Irish Language Commissioner and Ulster-Scots Commissioner and staff have been appointed as democratically agreed and are beginning work.

If we're just making up boll*cks numbers, why not just call it an even trillion? You ran away from addressing the breakdown of the numbers you're proposing, yet here you are parroting them again.

We can try again. You've projected the cost of training translators as a recurring costs over twenty years and you've quoted the EU year one costs of training Irish translators. Can you tell us the year one costs versus the current costs for specifically training Irish translators for the EU?

Without the deflection into something else, let's just address one point at a time. You presented the EU training costs of translators in year one at €10m and have suggested that would be a recurring cost. What is the specific cost each year thereafter for training Irish translators?

You can keep talking all the sh*te you want, but have the spuds to at least address this one point that has been the core of your argument about potential annual costs.

Deflect, deflect, deflect.

I've said already I'll pursue the rest of the variables after we deal with one point. What were the year one costs versus the current costs specifically of training translators.

I've made absolutely no comment on what price per capita is worth it, I'm asking a very specific question about your supposed costings. You and Paul Givan are suggesting that the cost of training translators on year one will remain constant for twenty years, so I'm asking for a direct comparison on that one aspect of the annual cost.

We'll try again; without deflecting off to some other point; if we both accept that the cost of training translators in the Irish language for the EU was €10m for the first year they had to do it, what was the cost specifically for training translators this year?

So you don't have a notion what you're talking about when you try and calculate costs by assuming the year one costs will recur for twenty years?

Cheers

The thing is, SF does not have a clue what the costs are for the next 20 years either. Going by what the Welsh language costs, we can assume the figure of 2 billion sterling over 20 years as an average guesstimate. Could be a lot more if and when Irish is rolled out in all schools in N. Ireland for example. Just because you get large government handouts in your music industry and FrancisBrady gets large handouts in the arts which he has been involved in most of his life, does not mean everyone can or should get large government handouts.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Again you did not read what I wrote. You wrote in post 3755, and I quote "I have been involved in the Arts all my life and I have heard this mealy mouthed unthought out argument many times." That is what you said.

I never said you were an " arts practitioner/creative." but I said

"The thing is, SF does not have a clue what the costs are for the next 20 years either. Going by what the Welsh language costs, we can assume the figure of 2 billion sterling over 20 years as an average guesstimate. Could be a lot more if and when Irish is rolled out in all schools in N. Ireland for example. Just because you get large government handouts in your music industry and FrancisBrady gets large handouts in the arts which he has been involved in most of his life, does not mean everyone can or should get large government handouts."

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Someone reading recent pages would get the impression that attempts are being made to covert NI into a bilingual or Irish speaking society.

Even if via some very unlikely circumstances N.I. becomes bilingual in advance of unification, this will not persist in a UI. Public services in the North will be delivered in the same language as everywhere else in the country i.e. in English. Zero chance the Irish civil service becomes bilingual - especially with the emphesis on recruiting more diversity.