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What book are you reading atm?? CHAPTER TWO

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,453 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No worries. I'm not much of a podcast person. I was over a year behind the only one I semi-regularly listen to.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Not to go too far of topic, but TRIH:

    I thought it was the bee's knees for a long time, it was a total breath of fresh air when it first arrived in terms of what it offered compared to other history podcasts that were out there at the time. And they seemed to know their stuff - at least to a level that was superior, or at least sounded superior, to 99% of other podcast hosts out there.

    But, over time...

    I think, of the two, Sandbrook is far more knowledgeable and authoritive. Holland is fine, but I don't know if I would trust his pronouncements on history entirely.

    I suppose a lot of is down to the fact that they cover all kinds of history and nobody can have expert knowledge on everything... So there'll be gaps. I do genuinely rate Sandbrook though in terms of social history in the 20th century, particularly in the UK.

    But, one thing that did make me stop being a weekly listener was an episode I listened to, about maybe three years ago. They had an episode on Robert E. Lee. I had coincidentally happened to read a review of a biography of REL just before I listened to the episode. And they had obviously read it too - because they shamelessly - and I mean shamelessly - lifted whole swathes of that review as the raw materials of their arguments and discussions in the episode.

    It was like seeing behind the curtain: they'd obviously swotted up beforehand and then just regurgited what they had read. That's not a crime, but what killed it for me is that they never acknowledged that they'd taken some inspiration from the piece or linked to it the show notes. They came down in my estimation after that.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,453 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The podcast I listen to is Origin Story which takes a word or person and goes through the history of it and how it impacts the world today. Neither of the two lads are historians but each episode is more of a brief overview of something with their analysis which I quite enjoy, along with recurring jokes such as any non-WW2 episode involving Churchill will show him to be a complete bastard (eg, the BBC). They do list sources in the show notes but only discuss them in extra stuff for Patreon supporters.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I have listened to Origin Story and it's definitely a quality show, but my brain can't endure how one of them laughs constantly throughout the episodes - and he has an annoying laugh.

    It's a pity, because the content and especially their analysis is usually quite good. I just can't abide a podcast if something about the host's voice, delivery or mannerism put me off.

    For instance, I can't really listen to the William Dalrymple podcast - there's something in the chummy tone of his voice that I find grating, which I know is a bit silly, as he's obviously quite learned and the show covers interesting subjects, but, I just can't...

    And, truth be told, I found his book about the East India Company, to be a bit boring. But I did finish it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,294 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Jesus, she has a name you know. Virginia Guiffre.

    Edit: that sounded snarky, I know. It just bothered me to see a woman who was marginalised and abused her entire life reduced to "the Epstein network girl" in a post discussing her own memoir.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,453 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I quite like Ian's laugh. It is a matter of taste though. If it's not for you, it's not for you.

    I've never listened to the Dalrymple podcast. I loved the EIC book though. Again, taste….

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I don't know if you'd enjoy the Flashman novels. I've bgged them up a few times here over the years.

    I always recommend them with a degree of caution as they are absolutely not pc in any way and some people won't be able to get past that.

    But, if you ask me, they also happen to be probably the best historical fiction ever written. Yes, they're bawdy and tasteless, but they're also impeccably researched and incredibly readable. George MacDonald Fraser was, in my view, one of the best writers of engaging prose that ever lived.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,453 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm not above bawdy and tasteless.

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    You're obviously recommending them so I might give them a look.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Terrier2023


    sorry i couldnt remember how to spell her surname my apologies at least i bought her book her kids might benefit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    Dan Whitlam, I Don't Want To Settle.
    A beautiful book, one I can see myself reading again and again. It just flows so perfectly. I can't remember anyone else's words ever having had this impact on me before.

    (After reading it, I bought 3 more copies for family and friends as Christmas gifts. I've never done that before either.)



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