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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,632 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am being sarcastic. But for certain people on the left you'd be digging a hole for yourself.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭Caquas


    I found a perceptive comment where I least expected - the Irish Times.

    Joe Humphreys, of all people, has an important insight - Jim Gavin was simply not cut out to be President of Ireland.

    He was a brilliant manager of Dublin's senior football team, he seemed to be an excellent soldier and aviation adminstrator but he had no business being President. Even if we never heard of that tenant, he was clearly unable to say why he should be President because he had no notion why he wanted the job except, as the article suggests, to  "get his picture in the paper with the word ‘President’ under it.” And MM has to carry the can for promoting this purposeless ambition.

    Unfortunately, Joe doesn't extend his line of reasoning to the other candidates because he could say much the same of HH (no relation to Joe, surely?).

    She was very well suited to being a local TD - she clearly loved serving the community in Monaghan/Cavan - but she was not meant to be President. For that matter, she wasn't cut out to be a Government Minister either. Like a few other recent/current Ministers, she had no vision for any of the portfolios she held. This was blatantly obvious in regard to the Gaeltacht but she simply hadn't the breath of understanding to manage any of the many national issues under her purview. No wonder she had no achievements to her name and could only apologize for her time in office.

    I wonder if CC will come to realise that she too is not cut out for the job? Getting elected by a huge majority is not proof that she is. She is well suited to the role of a maverick politician, railing against the establishment whether that be NATO, the EU, the Government of the day or Galway City council. How can she reconcile her character with sitting in the Áras, the apex of our constitutional establishment. Yes, her predecessors found ways to express themselves but she is cut from a different cloth. No wonder she had such a bitter fall-out with Michael D.

    Time will tell but her relations with the Taoiseach have not started well and will deteriorate rapidly if the "triple lock" is touched. A President who can't get on with the Taoiseach is not cut out for a job because practically all of the President's powers and functions can only be exercised on the Government's say-so. She could become Ireland's worst case of "imposter syndrome" not because she lacks abilities - she is clearly very capable and well-organised - but because her abilities are a very bad fit for the job and, despite Michael D efforts in his second term, the President's job description is fixed by Bunreacht na hÉireann.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/10/27/joe-humphreys-maybe-some-of-us-are-just-not-meant-to-be-president/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭creedp


    There was uproar among a few enlightened mothers at local primary school recently when a dinosaur male teacher made a sexist comment along the lines that boys are physically stronger than girls and admitting he should have sent 2 boys to pick up a heavy package after the girl in the boy/girl combo send to perform the task complained about how heavy it was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,632 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Well that's what you get when you employ a man to do a woman's job!

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭pureza


    The president is really just a figurehead

    If the Dáil end the triple lock,she has no say

    If there’s legislation involved,submitting it to the supreme court is about all she can do ,only to have them hand it back to her untouched

    Can she refuse to sign legislation? Not sure what impact that would have on her job



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,409 ✭✭✭corkie


    @pureza As far as I am aware. She can send legislation to the supreme court (and if they say it is okay, it can't be challenged again). Once it comes back she has no other choice but to sign it, if she doesn't it would probably be grounds to be impeached?

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It would be grounds to be impeached, though impeachment is a political process and you don't really need grounds nor are they necessarily sufficient.

    More importantly, it is just grounds to be ignored. The President shall sign the bill in this scenario, if they don't perform their duties then as per Article 14 there duties will just be exercised by the Presidential Commission.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,433 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Yes. And she mentioned it briefly on the tv but the interviewer cut her off and moved on to something else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,433 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    The interviewer asked her about what the Connolly campaign was doing, not Fronta Poblachtach https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=816347201137397



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Crystal Ball Joe has decided CC is not cut out for the job before she takes up the job , he also knows how she's going to deal with bills coming from gov...tiresome stuff really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Neither the interviewer or HH mentioned Fronta Poblachtach, so not sure why you mention them? 

    Was Fronta Poblachtach supporting CC, same many other Republicans were?

    "And there is a person in a balaclava putting up a very sectarian poster of me, and it is there for everyone to see."

    Wonder if the Gardai even found out who put them up, who printed them etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,433 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Fronta Poblachtach, were the ones putting up the posters. It wasnt Connolly in a balaclava.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Nobody suggested it was Connolly in a balaclava. It was almost certainly a supporter of some sort. What makes you think it was some relatively unknown group called Fronta Poblachtach? Were they similar to, or associated with Eirigi, the group that CC's controversial employee in the Dail belonged to?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭BQQ


    I’m confused.

    If there’s nothing wrong with the orange order, why is it a smear to be associated with them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Much the same as hiring a Eirigi member and former gun criminal I suppose, sure whats the fuss about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    'Same as', if somebody had gone to jail on a gun crime.

    That wasn't the dichotomy the poster was pointing out though.

    Connolly stood over what she did and didn't step back from it.

    With Humphreys you had a candidate getting caught out trying to obscure any recent connection with the OO because they know that is a damaging connection to them.

    If the OO are an acceptable organisation in a republic why be so anxious to distance yourself?

    The self imposed omerta among our journalist class on these issues never asked that question of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    She wasnt a member, her hisband was a former member. She surely didnt want it brought up, it was and used against her in an effort to smear her as being an orange order member.

    Except in Cavan/Monaghan of course, where people know her for the woman she is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Nobody said she was. And she caught herself out trying to distance herself. Nobody else did that.

    to smear her as being an orange order member.

    So why is it a 'smear' to say that?

    How would Humphreys intend to reach out to this organisation if she is so anxious to distance herself from it? Why is it anathema to her 'republicanism'?
    What did it do in the 'troubles' that ended their connection to it?

    All questions that could have been asked but weren't so we will likely never know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    She is more likely to be accepted by them as an acceptable face in any negotiations on a UI probably than Connolly. Not that im saying they should hold much sway, but their traditions, whether we like them or not, are part of their culture and we should be willing to accept that. Much easier that way.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not what we were discussing and a different subject.

    *You might also want to look up 'Lundying' in relation to this 'tradition'.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Nobody said she was. And she caught herself out trying to distance herself. Nobody else did that.

    The claim was made to deliberately try and harm her in the eyes of the electorate in much the same way some tried to imply that she had something to do with road signs. Otherwise why would it have been put out there?

    So why is it a 'smear' to say that?

    Are you really asking that?

    How would Humphreys intend to reach out to this organisation if she is so anxious to distance herself from it? Why is it anathema to her 'republicanism'?

    When was she anxious about it?
    She denied that she was a member each time she was asked.

    What did it do in the 'troubles' that ended their connection to it?

    All questions that could have been asked but weren't so we will likely never know.

    And yet you continue with it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,433 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    I think it was Fronta Poblachtach because of this tweet https://x.com/frontapoblacht/status/1979156172188930227



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Correct. She did not want it brought up, and it was not brought up in elections before this. Look what happened to the other Protestant Fine Gael politician from Monaghan during the troubles, Billy Fox. He was murdered by republicans in a sectarian attack, so it is natural Humphreys did not want it brought up.

    Whatever her family may or may not have done 50 years ago was lawful in both jurisdictions but she was still hounded on it. When pressed on it she did say she was at an OO picnic in Drum about 8 or 10 years ago but it was a cross community event and she named a Sinn Fein politician who was also there with her. When out canvassing in the past month she got manys a cheap nasty jibe about being out marching or where was her sash etc, and the sectarianism sickened her.

    Glad to see the people of Cavan Monaghan voted for her, because as you say they know her for the woman she is, and they know the OO members in Cavan Monaghan are not sectarian. Harmless enough folk, like the OO ones who parade in Donegal each July without any bother. A different culture to mine, but have to admire their bravery and integrity for holding on to their culture. Sure it would be boring if everyone was the same.

    A good democracy has tolerance of peaceful minorities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The claim was made to deliberately try and harm her in the eyes of the electorate

    Are you saying I claimed that? Because I most certainly didn't.


    in much the same way some tried to imply that she had something to do with road signs. Otherwise why would it have been put out there?

    The other candidates can be asked about anything stemming from what they said or done or didn't do but not this candidate. Why is that? Were questions asked about the Éirigí story to 'imply' stuff? Why was the overpaid rent story 'put out there'? Why was it ok to ask questions about the fox hunting story but not ask questions about a candidates professed love of the Irish language and the importance of it?

    If it is 'smearing' her to try and get a honest answer on her professed love and belief in the importance of the Irish language then there was a whole lot of smearing going on here.

    When was she anxious about it?

    She denied that she was a member each time she was asked.

    And she tried to leave it at that and subsequently had to correct herself about attending events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,561 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    'Fronta' sounds like makie-upie Irish to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Why? Im not doing any research on the organisation. As i sad, if CCs having to explain her connections to an Eirigi member and recently released gun criminal is a smear, then surely HH and any association she might have had with the OO is also a smear. The thing is it wasnt the press that put up the posters about HH, it was racist bigots, i didnt see any put up about Connolly anywhere. The questioni by journalists or even the public is fine, no bother with that. But anytime Connolly was questioned with anything, SF and her other backers immediately shouted "smear:" , yet you seem to be of the opinion that anything attached to Humphreys is just informative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    They didn't shout 'smear' about 'anything' that was asked. Specific things were asked/raised to smear her. And it most certainly was not only SF who shouted that, the media also recognised it and they questioned Humphreys directly about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Ah FFs, the press were the ones the Connolly people were talking about, being in league with FG. They and she questioned why the press were asking the questions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,760 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Michéal live on Radio 1 explaining the election results for the sheeple



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