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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    At least millions of people all over the World now know this reality of what Israel really is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Miniegg


     "Israel isn't perfect but…" 

    If seen loads of posters say this, or something along the lines of "I don't agree with everything Israel has done..."

    When asked for specifics, they go quiet. I have asked the question of about a half dozen different posters who said something like that - and they always disappear, or refuse to give an answer. It's bizarre.

    The answer mustn't be in their little pro IDF handbook that they all seem to ascribe to.

    Either that, or they support it all. But then, why lie in the first place?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    It is difficult to be optimistic about the perpetrators of war crimes in the conflict facing justice.
    The pro Zionist mantle has been grasped by ethno nationalists and common racists all over Europe and beyond.
    It’s a political strategy to drive Islamaphobia in Europe in order to increase support for Israel killing Muslims.
    Everyone from Tommy Robinson, the ADF to Viktor Orban has ties to Zionism.
    Reform, increasingly likely to head the next UK government are all in on Zionism and receive support from extreme right wing Zionist groups.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Maybe Belfast was promised to them 3000 years ago?

    "Belfast could be first city outside Israel with Hebrew street sign Pro-Israel groups are backing applications for the language to win endorsement in Northern Ireland under Belfast city council's Irish language policy"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    At least 60 killed overnight as ceasefire looks increasingly fragile... you'd imagine having murdered 60 the ceasefire would be over no?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Great timing to get themselves replaced by AI. I have to laugh at that fact they think it’s biased but had no problem gatekeeping subjects themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Oh no wait... its back on. Those deaths were probably just more teething problems...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,854 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    There are never any consequences for Israel committing crimes against humanity.

    The sheer callousness of murdering and mutilating dozens of innocent people by dropping bombs on them with absolute impunity.

    Utterly inexcusable. Defenders of this genocide have so much blood on your hands. Useful idiots or paid shills, doesn't matter which.

    Ireland needs to immediately sanction Israel. Not just goods from the occupied territories. All Israeli goods, and sanction all known Israeli individuals who support the genocide.

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,646 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Scottish firefighters raised the funds to send a fire engine to the West Bank. Israel impounded it and are charging 16k in fees.


    "The appliance also contained medical supplies and football kits for a children's club in the West Bank.

    But port authorities in Israel did not let the vehicle proceed. The FBU said the appliance's right-hand drive was given as the reason for it being impounded.

    They also said port authorities would not allow the other aid to continue its journey to the West Bank."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    There should be but we'll do exactly what our US overlords tell us to do like the good little colony we are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Those right-hand drive fire engines are notoriously antisemitic... another one for Miniegg's list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,646 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    They know that to engage with a corroborated counter argument means admitting they've blindly regurgitated the Hasbara and their initial argument/point simply evaporates.

    But they'll be back to try again. And fail again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    60 people killed. A third of them children. A massacre to be roundly condemned in any other situation or place in the world, but not in Gaza.

    Hamas fired apparently. Where is the proof? Who can corroborate it? If someone did fire at Israeli soldiers, how do they know it was Hamas? Why would Hamas do it? The whole thing is ridiculous, and like 90% of other arguments put forward here that excuses Israel's conduct in this conflict, makes no sense. Israeli violence keeps making idiots of the people here who profess support for them

    It's also v convenient that Hamas seemingly "fired at troops" during Netenyahu's corruption hearing, cutting it short (if I have that right). One would have thought it would be in their interest to let that play out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Can we have a few positive stories about how Israel treats Palestinians, just for balance. 😁

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Court trial was cut short yesterday due to Netanyahu's meeting to start the extermination again. No date announced for the case to continue, probably will be after negotiations on a new ceasefire have been concluded and more hostages released.

    No doubt an emergency security council meeting will be arranged for everyone to condemn the unexpected start of bombings along with repeated calls for an urgent ceasefire.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Israel really do like murdering people. Perhaps they should actually help finding the bodies that THEY buried under the rubble.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,646 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    As usual, the numbers have been significantly revised upwards. Israel executed 35 children in a revenge attack but apparently that's OK because they've now reinforced the ceasefire.

    Its an odd ceasefire - Israel can switch it on and off as they please and just go out to do a bit of the auld murdering when they please.

    RTE:

    "At least 101 fatalities were brought to hospitals, including 35 children and a number of women and elderly, as a result of Israeli air strikes in less than 12 hours," said Mahmud Bassal, spokesman for Gaza's civil defence agency, which operates as a rescue force under Hamas authority.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,449 ✭✭✭Cordell


    It makes no sense to you from your perspective as a civilized western person.

    From the perspective of an islamic terrorist organization it makes every sense: it creates martyrs and it continues to justify their existence. If the war stops and palestinians see that living in peace is much better than living under a constant pointless war to archive something that can't be achieved the Hamas members will be thorn to pieces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,015 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Bibi can't wait to get this going again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    The only people murdering innocent civilians yesterday were the IDF, at the same time Netenyahu was on trial for corruption. What are the odds. And as usual, no proof given, no indication how Israeli forces knew those supposedly shooting at them were Hamas, not that that bothers yourself.

    And that post you did is just another typical lazy, dumb, pie in the sky nonsense post we are so used to reading on here.

    Why are Hamas negotiating ceasefires with the highest echelons of US government, brokered by diplomates from many other countries, if they are all just lunatics looking to make martyrs? Why would the US and these respected diplomats deal with them if they are so clearly insane? It doesn't make a lick of sense.

    And for some reason, you don't seem to ask logical questions yourself, when it can all be explained by "Muzlimz being Muzlimz". Just like you also don't ask questions when it can all be explained by "everyone criticizing Israel is antisemetic", all whilst coming on here considering yourself an independant thinker. Pat yourself on the back for a job well done.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,404 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,490 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    From the perspective of a corrupt genocidal Israeli government it makes every sense as it creates martyrs and it continues to justify their existence. If the war stops and Israelis see that living in peace is much better than living under a constant pointless war to achieve something that can't be achieved the Israeli Government members will be torn to pieces.

    Hey would you look at that it works the other way too. Also fixed your several grammar and spelling errors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,449 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Why are Hamas negotiating ceasefires with the highest echelons of US government, brokered by diplomates from many other countries, if they are all just lunatics looking to make martyrs?

    Because that's what they are, proven times and times again. Why did they do the 7/10 attack? What diplomatic reasons behind that? None, just them being them. I don't care you find it offensive or lazy or god forbid it islamophobic, that's reality and it isn't pretty, or even reasonable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,449 ✭✭✭Cordell


    No it doesn't work that way. Israel has a strong developed economy based on science technology and innovation, they don't need any war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    They are vile sick cowards. The most cowardly armed forces in the world. They have dehumanised the vermin of Gaza so much that it means nothing to murder 100 more innocent civilians. And yet the world stands idly by.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭greyday


    And murdering innocent civilians, dont forget the murdering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,449 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Not murders but casualties of war, a war they, or their parents, started and supported.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,404 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,449 ✭✭✭Cordell




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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