Irish firefighter found guilty of rape in Boston!

threeball · 27-10-2025 07:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123939829#Comment_123939829

You should watch, I am not a rapist on Netflix, to see the absolutely awful situations some guys have found themselves, accused by women who had no reason to lie. A couple of the subjects kill themselves during the documentary. You'd be amazed what some people are capable of.

The only way to try something like this is on evidence. Not because we feel someone had no reason to lie.

Grayson · 27-10-2025 08:07AM

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It's not downplaying. But there are degrees. If it involved a massive beating, you would expect the perpetrator to get more time for the crime than if it didn't.

It's not saying it's not a horrific crime. But judges take in every aspect and use it to increase or decrease the length of the sentence. And it's because sentences vary, they're not flat rates for everyone and every crime.

Grayson · 27-10-2025 08:16AM

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Yes but…..

In a lot of trials, especially rape trials, the evidence boils down to believing a person/witness. It can't all be CSI Miami where they get forensic evidence which proves it. If a witness states something, then the defence has to prove what they're saying can't be trusted. And in a rape trial, the witness is normally the victim.

The thing is that rape occurs far more than convictions. It's a tiny percentage that make it to trial. And a smaller percentage that result in convictions. There's probably hundreds, if not thousands of times more rapes that don't get convictions than the number of false convictions/accusations.

Rape trials/prosecutions need dedicated teams investigating and prosecuting them. They also need rules to prevent the victim being put through hell. Too often the trial is used as an excuse to cause additional pain to the victim and this just prevents victims from coming forward.

Boggles · 27-10-2025 08:54AM

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There is no evidence the victim in this is a lunatic or was motivated by malice or had any sort of previous relationship with the rapist.

She contacted a friend and went immediately to the hospital who contacted police.

There is no conspiracy here, he 100% did it, the conviction is beyond sound.

I do feel sorry for his wife though, his defence was he couldn't have been a rapist because he cheated on his wife a few hours earlier and didn't rape her or go back with her. Beyond ludicrous.

He did the crime, time now to pony up and do the time.

Fotish · 27-10-2025 09:25AM

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I thought they said that the victim was very drunk and incoherent because of prescription drugs.

She got very basic facts incorrect. How do we know which facts to believe and which to ignore.

The lack of evidence is very worrying for me, at that stage it is just her word against his.

He booked a hotel bed for the night , she should have booked her own bed if she wanted to stay for the night.

Boggles · 27-10-2025 09:40AM

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I thought they said that the victim was very drunk and incoherent because of prescription drugs.

Link?

She coherently texted her friend just after it detailing what happened. She then coherently gave her account to the hospital and the police.

He booked a hotel bed for the night , she should have booked her own bed if she wanted to stay for the night.

If Carlsberg did victim blaming. 🙄

carfinder · 27-10-2025 09:40AM

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Nice Strawman. Your comparisons are fairly poor though.

You were the one who put yourself in the position of convicting/acquiting - going quite a distance more than offering an opinion on guilt or innocence. In order to put yourself in the shoes of a juror you would have needed to have watched every single minute of the trial - did you? (be honest)

martingriff · 27-10-2025 09:53AM

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Rape is Rape wherever it is or whoever it is with

No is no

No consent is no consent

Lecter8319 · 27-10-2025 10:45AM

His solicitor says they’re going to appeal it & his wife is still going to stand by him. If he gets a very lengthy sentence, I don’t think she will.

The more I’ve looked into the case, the more I think he’s guilty & he’s trying to minimise/downplay his own behaviour in front of his wife. He’s been caught in a number of lies, the latest one I’m hearing is that he was saying he didn’t see anyone leaving the room when there’s video evidence of her leaving not long after he went in, cmon!! Hard to believe that, it wasn’t even that big of a room.

if he put his hands up from the beginning & showed a lot of remorse, he wouldn’t be looking at the sentence he is now imo.

Oscar_Madison · 27-10-2025 09:51PM

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“if he put his hands up from the beginning & showed a lot of remorse, he wouldn’t be looking at the sentence he is now imo.”

He may well have- but we are where we are

We can only go on what was reported- a fair amount of the evidence covered in link below. Her texting her friend immediately after and getting to the rape clinic a while later feels quite definitive to me, given that no other stories of her having some sort of psychological issues history , were raised.

The inclusion of his question around definition of rape charge and his remark /question around “pinning her down” - essentially describing the alleged rape, even though he hadn’t been told the details of her allegation- and his early attempted exit on the flight out of New York coupled with the victims immediate actions post rape, coupled with his mention of him masterbating on the bed earlier in the day which was impossible because he hadn’t checked in at that time -leaves me with little or no doubt.
While I can’t see the appeal being successful for the above reasons, I wonder why his DNA wasn’t found- leaving aside the answer “because he didn’t do it” -I wonder if this is a common occurance in rape allegations where DNA of the alleged assailant isn’t found.

https://www.courttv.com/news/ma-v-terence-crosbie-firefighter-rape-trial/

Lecter8319 · 27-10-2025 10:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123942560#Comment_123942560

From the reports I read, she went home and had a shower in the immediate aftermath which might have affected crosbies dna being found on her. Her consensual activity with Crosbies co-worker beforehand would likely have gone on longer and it might have been easier to develop his dna profile as a result. Who knows with DNA evidence.

I think its a mistake though to think this verdict came as a result of DNA evidence alone. I think Crosbies ridiculous lies along with an unknown male DNA profile being found on her didnt exactly do him any favours

slay55 · 27-10-2025 10:11PM

wonder why she had a shower if she had reported the rape? Surely being a lawyer of some descript, she’d know not to do this

Oscar_Madison · 27-10-2025 10:32PM

I read she went home and changed her clothes, put them in a plastic bag to bring with her to the clinic - I can’t remember reading she had a shower but certainly open to correction on that

Kaisr Sose · 27-10-2025 10:43PM

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So it's just sexual assault then?

His actions to leave the US on an earlier flight don't seem like the actions of an innocent t man. That said, with inconclusive DNA I thought he may be found not guilty.

Sentencing is Thursday and he is facing a bigger sentence than he would get here. US jails are a totally different proposition to ours.

Jinglejangle69 · 27-10-2025 11:32PM

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He waited for the police to arrive.

They spoke to him and told him he was free to leave.

That’s when he booked an earlier flight. I can definitely understand that.

Kaisr Sose · 27-10-2025 11:59PM

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A few other posters mentioned the earlier flight. I am aware he was told that. However, he was not due to leave until after the parade on 17th, but rescheduled for 16th. I dont think the police expected he would attempt to leave early. Ok, he was not under arrest, but why leave before the event you travelled over for?

Simi · 28-10-2025 12:18AM

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Because being a person of interest in a rape case might hang a raincloud over the rest of your trip? I'm not saying he's innocent, but booking an early flight home does not make you guilty.

If I were person of interest in a crime I had noting to do with, in a country not exactly known for its fair system of justice, I definitely wouldn't just continue on with my holiday like nothing happened.

cj maxx · 28-10-2025 05:44AM

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Booking an early flight and getting an even earlier one doesn't seem like the actions of an innocent man .

John_Rambo · 28-10-2025 10:06AM

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As Simi says, if he was innocent (and I acknowledge he has been found guilty), he’d be wise to get out of America quickly, just like he would in places such as North Korea, China, Singapore, or Saudi.

cj maxx · 28-10-2025 10:10AM

True

Lecter8319 · 28-10-2025 12:06PM

Sentencing is on Thursday. His lawyers said they're hoping for 2 to 4 years with the prosecutors looking for 5-7 years. Id be surprised if thats all the prosecutors are looking for. If he gets anything from 5 under, he's getting off very lightly considering this is the states.

Windowsnut · 28-10-2025 02:24PM

I am of the opinion this could never have happened if they had not been in a shared hotel room, i.e. he would not have had a key card to gain access to the room.

After the Kenmare case, I would have thought no HR in their right mind would book employees into shared accommodation:

Kenmare 'asked Kinsella to resign' – The Irish Times

Once or twice I have been asked to share a hotel room with another colleague, I have always refused, if the event is important enough for the Company to want me to attend, they can book me a single occupancy room otherwise no thank you.

You mean to tell me that Dublin City Council with a €1.48 billion budget, couldn't have organised single occupancy hotel rooms for their employees stays?

ratracer · 28-10-2025 02:43PM

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This is not a business trip. It is a holiday, paid for entirely by the individual, it’s not a job paid junket. Hence why rooms are shared, to keep costs down.

Windowsnut · 28-10-2025 02:49PM

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I had thought he was supposed to march in the St Patricks day parade?

Lecter8319 · 28-10-2025 02:55PM

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If you're going away on a trip with friends or the lads whether its work or fun. If you're sharing, you shouldnt be bringing back another women or fella for the night, period. Either you go to their place or tough. It was bad form from O'Brien bringing this woman back and being so out of it, he slept through the whole thing spread out on the bed if we're to believe. Leaving her in the other bed, with the fella he was sharing with no where to sleep.

The whole thing is bloody bizarre. How on earth did O'Brien sleep through the whole thing, was there no noise (did she not scream or let a cry even) or was he that drunk. If he was that drunk, how did he manage to get it up to have intercourse. He should have been subpoened again for the second trial. He had to have seen or noticed something or at the very least been able to refute some of both or one parties testimony.

He'll have to be part of the appeal if crosbie wants to have any chance at reversing this decision.