Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Are they not meant to claim asylum in France, or whichever country they entered before that? Therefore it is illegal?

Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it's not going back in either. Look at vast swathes of urban centres in England where the demographics have been permanently transformed.

Went to Dublin for the first time in about a year yesterday. Was shocked at the proportion of 'cultural enrichment' of the place. Can any diversity enthusiast answer me this: how does taking tens of thousands (if not more) of (very tribal) citizens of a country in excess of 2 Billion into a country of 5 million improve "diversity"?

Here's some mathematics for the open-border enthusiasts (who seem to think everyone who doesn't hold their liberalism as being a dumbass) - if every single Irish person moved to India tomorrow (let's say to improve the country's diversity), we would make make up 0.25 of 1% of the population. So how in the name of God is the opposite better??

And for anyone who says "they are coming in to do the jobs the Irish won't" that is completely inaccurate. They are coming in as a cheaper option for the large tech companies. Salaries in this sector are being diluted in favour of larger profits. Despite them being a cheaper option, they are still out-earning the majority of Irish people so can rent, buy cars, and still send money home.

This government policy is the most scandalous and racist that has been exerted on Irish people since we've been under British rule.

Interesting article about West Ham Fc in today’s Sunday Times mentions fans wanting to return to their old ground noting that the white British population in the area in the east end was 34% in 2001 and went down to 15% In 2021 and is now full of Asian shops

The more time goes on, the more I am convinced that the levels of Migration to Europe from North Africa and the Middle East is a form of Putin's hybrid war against the West.

We saw how Belarus (a vassel state of Putin's Russia) tried to flood Poland, Lithuania, and Latvia with imported Mirgrants

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus%E2%80%93European_Union_border_crisis#:~:text=In%20August%202021%2C%20the%20government,of%20Lithuania%2C%20Poland%20and%20Latvia.

We saw how Russia did the same with Finland.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67555626

So, from this I think it would be fair to say that Putin is using Migration to destabilise European countries, not just the financially, but also socially.

And the economic growth hasn't led to much in the way of standard of living increases compared to our European peers. We're still at the low end of Western Europe and middling in terms of the EU as a whole.

china and india have quite a bit of migration so your claims are inaccurate.
we would free up very little in reality if we stopped feeding and housing assylum seekers, claiming assylum being an option open to us if our country god forbid ever ended up in a war.
assylum seekers can be economic migrants as most assylum seekers want to work, and economic migrants migrate to countries all the time.
an assylum seeker is only false when determined to be so by the process based on the evidence gathered, until then they have the ability and right to claim assylum and to have their case heard and investigated.

1. not really as tourism isn't going to return to what it was once upon a time as ireland isn't the best value for money for tourists now days, especially the hospitality industry.
   so the beds wouldn't really be freed up but would just go to waste as there aren't the people to fill them.
2. no an assylum seeker and an economic migrant can be the same as while an individual may be fleeing a war for example, they do want to work and lack of work back home would be one of the reasons but not the main reason why they left that country.
   no matter what system we implement there will always be a small amount of abuse unfortunately, very little can be done about that apart from weeding out those doing the abusing, an abuse free system will and cannot exist unfortunately due to human nature.
3. the appeals are necessary to insure the system and process has been followed, multiple appeals are actually beneficial as if the individual doing the appeal loses them all it shows the system has worked perfectly.
   it's well worth the cost to be honest.

On RTE news tonight....

1. If tourists could book a hotel room for 100-150 a night on the wild Atlantic Way during the summer footfall would double or treble.
2. Conflating again.
3. Multiple appeals are beneficial! Surely you are having a laugh with that one.

I've been to China and India. Everyone looks the same and there are basically no other ethnicities there. They like it that way and see no reason to change. Even based on Government data, we spend well north of a billion a year on AS. That's not nothing and does not include Healthcare and Policing which are no doubt in the hundreds of millions plus legal costs for endless appeals. We also have to fund deportation flights at great expense.

Anyway, I'm done debating with you. Also, the word is "Asylum".

The luvvies and loonies who are blind to what’s happening are the people in power and their minions who look down their noses on the very citizens who elected them. We thought we got rid of the situation where the inner circle are completely supported and enabled to influence and control the lives of ordinary citizens. That was the RC church in the past, today that influence comes from academia and the media. The self-assurance of the liberal classes and their arrogance and disdain for ordinary citizens is unmistakeable. IIRC, that kind of attitude backfired spectacularly on HClinton (even though she is a Democrat) when she called large numbers of voters in the US a ‘basket of deplorables’. Look how that worked out 🙄

Anyone who is concerned, or has the temerity to protest about what’s going on in localities all over the country, is labelled far-right or at best misguided, ie, they don’t understand, they need more education, we know best, multiculturalism is the way to go. The amount of spoiled votes in the election for Uachtarán, the protests, the upsurge in the grá for our first language and all things heritage, is demonstrating how despised the current policies are and how we value our own nation, culture and people.

The government are deaf to the mood of a huge cohort of citizens. Spending billions on nationals of other countries to the detriment of our own is a contemptible abuse of power.

Agree but TBF to people, they don’t see any alternative and feel that the other existing parties will go further down the high immigration and refugees route so what can voters do? They believe they got the least worst option. It remains to be seen.

The push for multiculturalism from all recent governments has been astonishing, and no party has called a halt to it. That could be explained in part by the reluctance of individual politicians to raise their head above the parapet and incur the wrath and admonition of the luvvies in MSM and academia who champion current government policies. The terror of being labelled far-right and various other vicious labels has effectively shut down any political discussion about this issue. The old proverb of “there are none so blind as those who will not see” comes to mind. Wilful ignorance.

It is a scandal that there is not more robust criticism of the government about unsustainable immigration. There are no essential checks in the Oireachtas because every party is on-board with the new religion of multiculturalism and increasing the population at breakneck speed. The fact that capacity is bursting in every area and hugely affected by increased immigration never seems to dawn on our elected representatives, particularly those on the opposition benches. They should be looking at the billions spent on such programmes instead of worrying about bike sheds, walls, and a hundred thousand overpaid to a dodgy tv presenter.