Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

illegal migration is being stopped, but to determine whether one is actually illegal or not does take time and a proper process.
deporting every non-irish citizen would collapse our public services over night and would cost billions.
donald trump is deporting millions of people without any sort of process, checks and balances yes, people who are simply non-white and who are randomly picked off the streets by violent trash who it actually can't be determined whether they are actually ice agents or criminal gangs impersinating them.
we don't pay billions a year to feed and clothe anyone who rocks up to our country, what we do is take the time to determine who has a right to come here and those who don't, that takes time.
there was and is no third world mass migration to the UK, what there is is a refusal to manage migration properly by having a proper process, and safe legal routes which could be done via being able to apply for assylum in british embasies either in or near the country being fled from.
ireland as we know it is not a constant and never has been nor can it be, change is going to happen as it always has.
your version of ireland is not a viable modern ireland i'm afraid, it's an insuler bankrupt dump, no thanks, been there and lived it.

Gotta love the arrogance of ideologues

“People only think differently to me because they’re being manipulated - they couldn’t possibly have their own agency and different thoughts and opinions.”

Oo and a bit of conspiracy theorist craziness thrown in too, very interesting. It’s all a “manufactured crisis”! By whom?

The “racists” (presumably)(?) have manufactured this crisis by bringing in millions more foreign people than the country has capacity to adequately deal with because…they’re racist and they… hmmm 🤔

Nobody (bar a handful of fringe nut jobs) is suggesting the deportation of every non-Irish person. Nobody is.

This is easily the most common strawman we see in this discussion, it’s honestly the most tiresome, played out, disingenuous thing here. It’s appeared umpteen times on this thread and previous threads with similar topics.
You’re fooling absolutely nobody, it is a totally valueless argument to make, give it a rest.

I’m sorry but there’s absolutely nothing to suggest that, bar your own paranoia

To paraphrase Mr Hitchens “"what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"

How is an ever fluctuating homicide rate an indication of racial tensions?

I would say immigration protests, riots, ethnic vigilante patrols on streets etc an indication of racial tensions.

Tell your coworkers in london how irrelevant 7/7 was.

As usual though youre arguing with yourself. You brought up homicide rates and crime, not me.

Its got zero to do with racial tensions. If its up next year or the year after you wont randomly bring it up im sure.

Riots, protests, ethnic based vigilante groups patrolling streets is proof of racial tensions. Why dont you discuss these?

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Crossing the channel without prior clearance is indeed illegal and people smuggling is indeed illegal.

And the right to claim asylum today is indeed underpinned by an outdated treaty drawn up almost 80 years ago.

I had to call out someone recently using this same straw man argument. I think the idea is to make out those suggesting some sort of rational immigration policy as xenophobic or racist, thereby allowing them to see themselves as virtuous.

2.1 billion on IPAs centers since 2024.

No money in the budget for PAYE workers, pensioners carers.

no, crossing the channel without clearence is not illegal.
the right to claim assylum is underpinned by an up to date and necessary treaty and laws which recognise the complex realities of the real world rather then the whinging of racists.
claiming assylum is not and is not going to be illegal, get over it.

It is indeed illegal to cross the channel without alerting authorities and declaring your intentions.

Do i need to link articles where truck drivers have been arrested for smuggling people across?

Laws change all the time. Get used to it.

Literally all it is

Lays bare the holes in their thinking that they have resort to such rubbish so consistently

Oh and they also get to pat themselves on that back for “calling out” some pretend racism they’ve made up in their head. Nectar for the shallow minded dopes.