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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,696 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    it's much more serious than was initially reported by RTE according to the Irish Mirror this evening.

    You could say that about most news stories to be fair

    If it's the story I just read it has absolutely nothing to do with the election at all, so I'm not sure why you're mentioning it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,572 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The fact he went for the old mentioning while not elaborating is generally a sign its irrelevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This narky and combative version of Heather seems much more genuine than the one we saw in the early stages of the campaign. She's quite feisty and is no shrinking violet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    I think she's been badly advised and managed throughout. It appeared in the early stages she was told to appear quiet and mild-mannered so to appear Presidential while Catherine and Jim were more combative and drawing attention, instead she came across as irrelevant and perhaps even uninterested in the position.

    Mary Regan after the first debate got it right with Heather Humphreys, the first thing she should have done in her campaign was distance herself from FG and Simon Harris, even throw some barbs at them. Instead it appears she's allowed them to steer the ship into the same troubled waters every FG campaign winds up in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,818 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I think you'll find winning a presidential election is a much more clear cut aim than forming a government. This was the case when there were three horses in the race, and even more so with just the two of them in it. First past the post.

    It will be interesting to see how many people spoil their vote and what, if anything will come of it.

    As for SF's ability to form a government - time will tell whether they have learned anything from the past few months - one would expect that with the continued **** show in housing and health enough diseffected people will get tired of the FF/FG governments, that is if they all haven't immigrated first and/or get up their arses and actually vote in the next GE. SF are a bit away from government formation but time will tell.

    Based on your statement I take it you are convinced that HH has this one wrapped up?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    HH came across well on the Virgin media 30 minute interview. At least she would answer questions, unlike CC who would not answer directly if she evicted poor Irish people from their houses. Turns out she done that in the mornings and then in the afternoons made speeches that the banks were criminals?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,409 ✭✭✭corkie


    @itsacoolday Turns out she done that in the mornings and then in the afternoons made speeches that the banks were criminals?

    She wasn't an acting barrister at the same time as been a TD making them statements?

    @Larbre34 Meanwhile HH is okay with 'Graphic Image of a fox after been torn apart'.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Hillmanhunter1


    On the “cab rank rule” - there is in fact no such rule!

    The Bar Council wrote a carefully-worded press release that served to obscure rather than illuminate, and served to protect one of their own.

    The Bar Council makes and publishes the rules for barristers, they are here - https://www.lawlibrary.ie/about/governance/code-of-conduct/ .

    The Bar Council has made no rule in Ireland to the effect of the so-called cab rank rule (unlike in England and Wales, for example, where there is a written rule).

    There can only be one reason why there is no cab rank rule in Ireland and that is because the self-regulating Bar Council does not want a cab rank rule.

    Catherine Connolly was at all times perfectly free to reject any case that conflicted with her conscience, her ethics or her moral values.

    She elected to take the bank business of her own volition, and any suggestion that her hands were somehow tied is nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    That’s probably why they referred to it as a duty and put what it is commonly known as in inverted commas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Farmer2024


    Both candidates have previously supported the obvious asylum madness, we should be able to judge them for their poor judgement now that it is bearing it's fruit across the country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    "The "left" in Ireland are much more vulnerable than the government on this issue following Jim's charter flights and generally tougher stance in public.

    CC could face uncomfortable questions in the coming days."

    You cannot be serious. Tougher stance?

    One publicised chartered flight of 15 people, who could easily fly back again.

    The FFG government have hundreds of millions of taxpayers money for the IPAS scam.

    The perpetrator living off the state for 6 years and was supposed to be deported, it's not like they didn't know where he was.

    The 'Left' are not in government.

    You are typical of FFG, nothing is ever your fault or responsibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    So Larby, remind me and us all, you are certain that Catherine Connolly will not be President and Sinn Féin will not lead the next government.

    Also, FFG will magically turn around their rapid decline in the next few years, while their halving of size in the last 3 decades was just a blip.

    Good stuff ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    😁🫣

    Kind of embarassed for you now.

    So, does that mean HH is campaigning to the unconverted?

    Is she off to the Student bars, women's shelters, Jobstown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭spakman


    Whereas the parties supporting CC are campaigning for stricter immigration rules, is that it!?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mod: this is not a discussion on immigration or immigrants so do not go there!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Don't think I spotted it mentioned here, I heard on the Irish Times Politics pod that there's 1 final poll due on Wednesday from the business post. I'd be surprised if there's much change in it but that'll be interesting to see.

    Last debate tonight too...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,990 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Yeah, tonight might be interesting. But is there anything new to add?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Hopefully they will insist that CC answers the question why she threw Irish people out of their homes in the morning on behalf of foreign banks, and in the afternoon publically attacked the same banks? Talking out of both sides of her mouth. Any other country she would resign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,589 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I don't think it's a case of anything new to add, moreso that what will be said will be new to a significant portion of the electorate

    The last tv debate was in September and was a 3-way debate including Gavin

    Since then there's only been radio debates. There's been individual interviews that people might have caught, but I know of a few people who said that they'll watch tonight and it will be the first time they've been engaged, just didn't have the interest before now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,696 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    That's quite a stretch in fairness to link that case to the presidential election.

    But if you truly feel it's relevant then please feel free to spoil your vote or refrain from voting as it makes my vote go further

    How many people are homeless because of FFG policy? She in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones as they say

    Despite numerous attempts you still don't seem to understand the can rank rule, why is that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,696 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    The question that has been answered over and over again? I'm sure it will be, RTE have famously been on the side of FF and FG candidates so I do actually expect it to be asked repeatedly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am bemused by how so many people find any of this interesting.

    The Messiah like parades of the Catherine Connolly should be followed by Heather Humphreys shouting "She's not the Messiah, she just a very naughty girl".

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Is the Prime Time debate in front of a live audience tonight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Farmer2024


    It's not a stretch at all.

    They both support one of the most obviously disastrous policies, a slow motion car crash for all to see. We can't keep supporting politicians who are either so malevolent/unintelligent to support this nonsense any further.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭swampgas


    If CC can separate her job from her activism, as she has in the past as a barrister, then presumably she can do the same as President. That's a positive as far as I'm concerned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think not, but I could be wrong. It it very strange that no debate was with a live studio audience, after all there were about ten of them, I think there were more debates on Radio that had been for 2018!

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I will be interested to see how much FG actually pivot toward a full smear of Connolly. Waking up this morning the topic of bank repossessions was being discussed, so clearly its center stage.

    I have been clear in my criticism of Connolly, I remain unconvinced in her as a candidate. She is far to radical in her Foreign Policy positions, and i dont believe it benefits us to have an activist in the Aras. Her judgement has been flawed on many levels too, RE the Eirigi fiasco. I just cannot view CC as credible.

    But this FG smear is going to backfire, its plain to see that IMHO. Considering Fine Gaels time in government post 2011, and their dealings with the Banks, and unsecured bond holders - i really cannot imagine what they are thinking in bringing this issue into the election. It reeks of desporation, which is probably clear to everyone. Rather than end the campaign in something that even approaches a dignified finale, they are just going to revert to old school Irish political smear.

    Its depressing. What time there remains should be used to discuss real issues surrounding the Connolly Campaign, with Europe being the obvious topc to discuss.

    Its been an aweful election. I take some satisfaction from the fact that FF were humiliated, and FG wont emerge in good condition, if this debate ends up going down the expected line.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I think so, its usually the case with PT that its on front of an audience. Previous Presidential elections on PT took place before an audience so

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,696 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Yes indeed, to use another movie reference FF remind me of the peoples front of Judea while FG are the Judean peoples front… Or have I that the wrong way around?

    The bar council are lying to us!!!

    That's an absolutely desperate and somewhat hillarious angle to take for FF/FG supporters. It will make CC's win all the sweeter



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,696 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    She wouldn't be the only one to do that. There are 7 TDs in Dail Eireann according to the below article who would previously have been solicitors or barristers. The flip side of it means FF and FG politicians would have had to represent homeowners in cases against banks, which I imagine can't have been easy

    I see Heather Humphries is listed as having worked in a bank, I wonder which one… For her sake I hope it wasn't one of the ones involved in the tracker scandal

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/elections-2024/teachers-barristers-accountants-what-the-tds-of-the-33rd-dail-did-before-they-were-elected/a1328224540.html



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