Israel/Palestine Thread

I think by Never Again they mean that they will never again allow to be the weak ones being lead to slaughter. Whatever it may take.

He is 100% compromised. It looks like the Football Policing Unit is not happy at all with the political interference

Yes, it looks like the decision will be overturned as a result of very strong pressure from the right wing UK Govt and the right wing press.

A real risk this could turn into a horrible evening now. Lots of thugs and extremists will probably turn up outside the ground looking for aggro or to attack the police.

I don't recall much hand wringing from the media, politicians and government in the UK when this happened in November 2023. I wonder what the difference is?

The UK government are knee deep in stoking the flames here, people have been convicted of incitement on lesser evidence - it is amazing how much chaos zionism creates.

The irony in all this and it is something the fcukwits cannot get their head around is this - conflating banning Maccabi hooligan fans as the same as banning jews is actually anti-semitic.

It’s a form of wokeism by people who would generally be highly hostile to the woke movement - I don’t like your facts you anti-Semite. If you don’t shut up I’ll try to get you ostracized, fired, deported, whatever. It’s also paired with blood and soil nationalism which sounds odd for Americans to support. Thirdly, the British allowed a tsunami of European immigrants into Palestine without the consent of the majority population, an extreme form of ‘open borders’ that Israel’s supporters would be horrified to see happening in their own countries today. Of course, Arthur Balfour had closed Britain off to the same refugees with his Aliens Act of 1905.

Birmingham police have refused to overturn the decision.

If they do eventually overturn it then it sets a precedent that no teams hooligans can be banned in the uk in future.

You really dont understand history at all, do you? Most of the Jewish population were driven out of what was Israel 2000 years ago, they scattered all over the world and many of those that stayed converted to other religions. The Jewish Population of what would become Mandatory Palestine was tiny in the intervening 2000 years, a few % in the late C19th and still less than 10% when the Balfour Declaration was signed during WW1. Their presence was miniscule.

In contrast the native population of Ireland was always high. Those that did come to settle, Vikings, Norman's usually integrated into Irish Society over time. Even the plantation settlers seen themselves as Irish(if a different shade though). Many modern day Unionists are descendants of the United Irishmen. Ireland may have been under the rule of the Crown to varying degrees, but was always regarded as a separate kingdom, hence why after the Act of Union, it was the UK of Britain and Ireland. Two distinct entities. There were revolutions against Crown rule every single century, and when the War of Independence was fought a large majority of the people backed an independent state. There was never a point in Irish history when the Irish population had become a tiny minority.

That wasnt the case in mandatory palestine where the Jewish population was only about a third by 1948, and most of those had only arrived in the preceeding 30 years. The Arabs of Palestine were never given a right to self-determination post WW1, the same as the Irish, but somehow a population of less than 10% were promised a state by outsiders. The Irish had to fight for their right to self-determination and were rewarded. The Arabs of Palestine were simply side-lined.

There were plenty of Jewish people spread throughout the ME and North Africa in the 2000 intervening years, why is it they never felt compelled to return to their homeland in that time? Why is it that they did not support Zionism until they were kicked out of their countries due to the Zionist programme in Palestine?

You have repeatedly shown you have no clue what you are on about.

Fast forward that by 80 years

It is quite surreal seeing the might of UK media, politicians and government argue for football hooliganism because they come from Israel

Trials of Palestine Action supporters will be undertaken at record speed.

Snow has now decreed that those 2,000 people charged under Section 13 of the Terrorism Act with supporting Palestine Action, will be tried in batches of five at the rate of ten people a day – giving 36 court minutes for each defendant. This is a farce, a spectacle of mass show trial. The 36 minutes includes both prosecution and defence cases and cross-examination.

At a scheduling hearing on Wednesday, one of the accused, 72 year old Deborah Wilde, objected that these trials would be far too short to present a proper defence.

Snow snapped back “I’m satisfied that the time is sufficient. I am not going to give more time. Your only remedy is the High Court”.

As I am sure Snow realises, ordinary people cannot afford to go to the High Court. The worrying thing is that the trials will be held before judges including the appalling Snow, with no jury.

They should absolutely stick to their guns on this and let all the hollow crying about "antisemitism" ring out.

Maccabi Tel Aviv are littered with scum and their reputation precedes them. There's no doubt in my mind that are large part of them are just itching to start trouble.