Israel/Palestine Thread

the respective govts of these countries are turning against their own civilian populations by (ab)using law enforcement +justice systems to outlaw +silence protest by intimidation (arrest) +imprisonment of well educated +well informed middle class ‘pillars of society’ for daring to challenge their political MASTERS

this will not end well

Are you completely stupid, Israel has committed genocide and war crimes and too much to list here … I don’t give a **** about Muslims or Jews or Pastafarians, I care about people, humans suffering! Israel is causing a whole lot of suffering!

we all know the real reason.

Yes, we all do know the real reason. They're racist bastards with a shitty history, even toward their own team members, that will use the current situation as an excuse to cause trouble.

Good riddance and no loss.

Ireland has a problem here. Look at the cvs of these guys:

Check Point chief executive Nadav Zafrir “established the Israel Defense Forces’ Cyber Command and served as Commander of the elite Unit 8200, retiring as a Brigadier General”, the company’s website notes.

Chief strategy officer Roi Karo served for more than 25 years in the IDF; chief technology officer Jonathan Zanger previously led research and development operations for Unit 8200, the Israeli military intelligence unit; and chief information officer Alex Spokoiny held engineering leadership positions in the Israeli Air Force, according to Check Point’s website. 

Check Point’s partners include Google, Microsoft and Amazon.

Basically, they sound like they were spies in their time and is there such a thing as an ex-spy? Now they are at the heart of the companies sustaining Ireland’s prosperity. Tricky.

Yeah we all know the real reason....

Hence why you remain ignorant!

Starmer is a disgrace. Forever going on about anti-Semitism in the UK, but has much less to say about the issue of Islamophobia. Even many decent British Jewish people have made this point, how anti-Semitism is being absolutely weaponised by every self-serving creep in UK politics and the media (the new leader of the Green Party is one of those drawing attention to it).

From wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabi_Tel_Aviv_F.C.

A survey conducted in March 2012 by Yedioth showed that Maccabi Tel Aviv was the second-most popular team among Israeli football fans (23%) right after rivals Maccabi Haifa (28%). The same survey revealed that 33% of Tel Aviv residents support the team.[25]

Reports by the New Israel Fund have found Maccabi Tel Aviv as having the second-most racist fans in Israel, behind Beitar Jerusalem.[26][27][28]

Fans have been known to yell racist slurs and insults at Arab and black players.[29][30][31][27] Players on the team often face racist abuse from the team's own fans.[31][32] Fans would yell anti-Arab slurs at Maharan Radi, an Arab player,[33][34] and yell monkey noises at Baruch Dego, an Ethiopian-Jewish player.[35][32]

During the 2020–2021 protests against Benjamin Netanyahu, Maccabi fans attacked protestors with batons and broken bottles

I doubt many people in Britain are bothered about Maccabi Tel Aviv fans not being allowed to attend a football match. Especially after how a lot of them behaved in Holland recently. As it was with Glastonbury, the apparent wide spread rage isn't really that wide spread at all. And is being inflated by right wing rags like The Mail, and lobby groups like UK Lawyers for Israel.

Starmer, of course, as always, will try to pander to the right on this. And in return will receive their undying hatred.

Whilst the Maccabi fans are a welcome distraction for some Dmc, you know yourself that's all it is.

• Israel is still bombing Lebanon despite there being a ceasefire….
• Still kidnapping and murdering Palestinians….. in the West Bank…
• Still ethnically cleansing….. Christians… in the West Bank, not even Muslims…
• Still refusing aid into Gaza, returning Palestinians missing body parts.
• Still murdering civilians in Gaza.

Amongst a litany of other cartoonishly evil shit. Of course that'll never make the news though. Keir Starmer will do everything in his power to defend and deflect and draw attention to supporters of a club that even seem to have a problem with "brown" Jews…

Made up argument? You are all over the place. This is a direct quote from you:

The land was taken from them, and now they want it back - call this what you want but not colonialism, because it isn't.

What could you possibly be talking about there other than Israel's colonization of the West bank and this genocidal landgrab for Gaza? You aren't talking about Israel, as they already have a country there, so they can't "want back" what they already own, can they?

And also, you are incorrect, genocide has been declared by virtually all international agencies that do this stuff, your claim that they are all antisemetic is absolute trash. You have still not provided a smidgen of proof that led you to type that.

We also see what is likely, at best, an 70:30, but far more likely 80:20 Gazan civilian to combatant ratio. So not comparable with other wars. And when the ratio of those killed overall are 98:2 Gazan Vs Israeli, this is even more skewed. Unprecedented in war I would say.

And lastly - stop calling Israelis "Jews". First of all, they arent all Jewish, and second of all, this war has nothing to do with Judaism as much as you want to hive mind them all. Can you not see how antisemetic it is to portray this genocide as being in anyway representative of Jews, rather than the policies of the lunatics in power in Israel?

And when attacks happen like in Manchester where a British man killed who AKAIK had no connection whatsoever to Israel, you lads hide behind your rocks as though you hadn't been implicating them all along with these statements.

You think it's ok to make antisemetic remarks because you hate Muslims just that little bit more, but it really isn't and it's very obvious.