This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying V2

This one's a bit debatable!

How good is the niro battery! 2021 Niro for €8950. 312000 Kms on the clock tho! Be interesting to see a battery report on that.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/kia-e-niro-2021/40765106

Who ever owned it certainly got their moneys worth. Over 300,000 km in a few years.

An update. I have taken a deposit on the car and the buyer was happy to give me the offer I had in for boards members. He was quite impressed with the condition and performance of the car. An easy sell. I will miss the Ampera and hope the Ioniq can live up to expectations. Thanks for all for your input.

It seems that one with 108km sold, hopefully one of boardsies got it 😀

no really, on the one hand optional extras have little value, esp if it’s just the stalk or better camera, and on the other hand it’s clear that people buying a Tesla gravitate towards the cheapest one possible, as you still get the brand, software, supercharger network and efficiency/range.

This is why the secondary market for model 3’s is broken and will be for some time. Sellers don’t price the cars against a new one, they price it against the price they paid, or feel it worth. Which is fine - but they don’t sell.

I can't speak for anyone else but my wife doesn't even notice the extras. Doesn't use lane keeping, cruise control or even the matrix headlights don't get a comment. Or the panoramic sunroof. In the minority I'm sure but out there. 😀

But trim level will be priced accordingly, as with all other marks. Time will tell I suppose

what’s in the €5k that you’d pay €5k to retrofit it to a second hand car, hypothetically, versus go without?
manual seat adjustment? Pano roof?

Extras are worth almost zero in the secondary market - but they make the cars easier to sell.

the m3 standard gets you what you really wanted, for far less money - the software, the range, efficiency and the supercharger network - and it’s a Tezzla :)

69k miles or kms?

BTW 20% annual depreciation compounds to 50% over 3 years, so it works for most of cars.

I think there is a difference between extras and trim levels. Typically higher trim levels do get extra until car price itself drops to couple thousand. It is pretty visible in VW ID or LEAF sales. However in case of extras that somehow is not true. I suspect that trims are easier to communicate instead of comparing every single extra across ads.

Your question should be if is 5k on new car, would you pay 2.5k to retrofit it 3 year old car or 1k to 7year old car. I think those extras at 1k would be good value to some people and unlike retrofitting do not cause issues with insurance.

I think it will effect price 3 year old, or less Tesla's. With " fears" around tech, and battery life, a noticeable % of buyers would choose new if possible.

So 27/28 grand for a 2 year old car Vs 32 for a zero-mileage 26 plate?

I think most buyers would pick new.

And Tesla finance currently at 0.99% would be cheaper too.

0% for some versions now

of course it will affect values - these are BEV cars, Tesla’s - not traditional ice cars.

You buy a Tesla for the design, battery, efficiency, range, software and charging network, and especially those who ‘just want a Tesla’ (like people do with Apple iPhone vs everything else)

You get all those things on the standard. The fact that you have to e.g manually adjust the seat or use an indicator stork is incidental really.

Traditional ice car trims looks physically different - there’s always that feeling of ‘that’s the more expensive one’ - like the Golf comfortline, trendline, Sportline, they are obviously identifiable from looking at them.

The M3 Standard will look identical in every way to a M3 LR that will be €15-20k more expensive.

Finally, back to bargains…