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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,571 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’m not getting the 12% “won’t vote”- I would have thought this will be a low turnout election?

    Assuming CC’s supporters will actually vote on the day, I could see her winning by a greater margin - but I don’t understand the “won’t vote” - would we even get 50% electoral turnout for this election?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭sdiff


    I would guess a lot of people who answer spoil, don't know and even some who indicate a candidate won't end up voting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Another problem for Humphreys according to Damian Loscher's (Ipsos B&A) analysis:

    "An interesting observation from Thursday’s poll is the lack of enthusiasm among Fine Gael supporters for their candidate. The party’s voters will mostly give Humphreys their first preference (56 per cent), but leakage to Connolly (22 per cent) is significant."

    McGuinness dropping out was an incredible loss for FG.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    turnout in this country is reported lower than it actually is, because the electoral register has so many extra names such as deceased, or moved county.

    Because the register isn't cleaned up there are far more names than actual voters, so it appears as a low turnout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    FF especially have to reflect on their choice of candidate, a disaster. FG were forced into change midstream and it looks like Heather is just bringing in around the support of the FG percentage of votes, not picking up anything outside of that. CChoovering up everyone else even FF. All in all when you look at it, the govt parties have had a disasterous campaign. Connolly is a very capable, clever politician, is affable people friendly. Has defended every accusation thrown at her in her own inimitable way. She has come across as sincere and you feel her views are her real beliefs that she is committed too and not compromised by any outside influences. This seems to have struck a chord with voters. Agree with her take or not, and I don't, she is the candidate that by far the most voters have taken to.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    How on earth are the Gavin numbers a surprise when the man isn't even running anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    That silo problem (appealing only to FG voters) didn't exist with McGuinness. Martin screwed up with his candidate. FF may be in a much better position after a Connolly win as FG will take most of the criticism.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Compared to the previous opinion polls including the most recent RedC poll which had him at 12.5% though that was effectively two polls in one.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Irish_presidential_election#Opinion_polling

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    I don't know, FG were unlucky and had to change horses, I don't think they had anyone who would have brought in much more. Maybe Sean Kelly with his GAA, more traditional Irish approach? The OO connections certainly hasn't helped HH.

    FF fcuked up hugely, even if there were no rent payment controversy, Gavin was a disaster, totally out of his depth and it showed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,895 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    This post from Sunday hasn't aged well. On mature recollection…?

    I think we should only let @jmcc do poll analysis from now on…

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,895 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    They might have a few "emergency smears" left in the bag. Ivan Yates' phone will be hopping. Honestly if they thought they could sway the public on a never ending smear re 'Garda vetting', they really have poor campaign managers. Nobody cared except the loyal folks here.

    It looks like we are not going to war either which is a relief.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Kelly is a proven vote getter. The only votes that Humphreys got are from her own constituency. He would have been a better candidate. The problem with Humphreys is that she is just not presidential like Connolly.

    Gavin should not have been the FF candidate and it shows the stranglehold that Martin has on the sheep in FF. However, the electorate is likely to forgive FF for having screwed up with this election as it is a better run party than FG. The post election party support %s will be interesting.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I think McGuinness vs Connolly would have been way closer than with HH - but it would not have been a huge surprise to see CC ahead of even Mairead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    McGuinness dropping out was an incredible loss for FG.

    Not so sure she'd have done much better.

    She'd have been closer maybe but she would be selling the same 'toe the line' safe FG presidency and had questions to answer too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,895 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I actually think she will gain as much respect as Michael D Higgins within a few short years. Even amongst the people that believed the smears about being pro-Putin, anti-EU etc etc. She is an extremely capable and intellectual woman.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The Garda vetting thing doesn't seem to have landed at all with the public - a lot of hot air and eejitry on social media and in the MSM about an issue the voters are not even interested in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It would probably have altered SF's decision too. The support for Connolly was expected to top out around 17% (party support for SocDems/PBP/Labour). Three things went wrong for FFG. McGuinness dropping out (obviously), FG selecting Humphreys and FF imposing Gavin with his rent problem unresolved.

    With McGuinness in the election, SF might have run its own candidate and would probably have lost as McGuinness would have got a lot of support from FF voters. She would have been a much stronger candidate than Humphreys. Without SF's backing, McGuinness would probably have polled much better than Connolly.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,895 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It's hard to know. McGuinness being a landlord and claiming massive EU expenses might not have played well. She may have had a Phil Hogan moment or two after years at the biggest trough of all.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    So many things have gone wrong at the same time for FFG. I think that FF might not have run a candidate and Martin would have reluctantly endorsed McGuinness had she not dropped out. His dithering pointed to that. McGuinness would easily have had voters thinking of her as presidential. She is much better at dealing with the media than Humphreys. If she was the FFG candidate, she probably would have won. Would SF have backed Connolly with McGuinness in the race? It is an interesting question. What has emerged almost by accident is a Left/Right axis by default in this election and part of the Right (FF) has collapsed already.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Probably. I never dissed her abilities, just my opinions on her beliefs and what might happen if she is over articulate in her presidential role. Interestingly a few feeds on my social media, not anything I was looking for, recently from Maria Steen supporters. It seems a good few of those were advocating for Connolly over Humphreys.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The bang of entitlement off a McGuinness campaign would have grown tiresome very quickly too, it was getting that way before she pulled out.

    The danger for Connolly now is that she is so far ahead, some of her support stay home thinking their vote isn't needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Charlo30


    If the poll is correct and there is no reason to think otherwise. Connolly's main focus for the rest of the campaign is ensuring that her vote actually comes out on the day and they don't stay at home as they think it's a foregone conclusion

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,571 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    As someone who just doesn’t like CC, I never saw that as a major issue per se- but I found it “unusual” that she would have chosen such a person in the first place - Shirley there were any number of PhD suitable students who would have jumped at that role? Why someone with a conviction for guns in the SCC? I thought it bizzare but it wasn’t what swayed me away from CC- I just don’t like her politics and world view- it’s that simple.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The advantage that McGuinness had was that she could easily have been the FFG candidate. Some of those issues would have been overlooked by FFG voters. It looked like Harris was trying to pull a stroke with imposing her as the government candidate. She now has a kind of sainthood having dropped out on health grounds. Otherwise, all those issues would have been brought up during the course of the election.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,805 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I do hope the poll is correct, because what its really saying is Humphreys 53% Connolly 47%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,393 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Because almost everyone that votes for Jim Gavin is going to give HH their number 2. She'll get 100% of transfers. The don't knows are mostly all voting for HH. And those that are spoiling their vote are only really joking. When it comes to being in the booth, nearly 100% of them are voting for HH.

    How can you not see that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,571 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’m not entirely sure HH even appeals to FG voters no less FF or other centres. I like CC less- that’s pretty much as good as it gets for me - many posters here alone, have said they are both awful candidates for president and I agree- just because one is out doing the other on the latest poll, doesn’t mean she’s “good”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭feelings


    On the drive into work this morning, I noted all the JG posters are still up. I think it’s disgraceful that he has withdrawn yet his posters are still up. Classic FF.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    My read of it was that it was always a relatively 'minor' issue in the general scheme of things, rather than a gamechanger. Nothing actually happened when this woman worked in the Dáil for a few months without clearance. If she had engaged in wrongdoing whilst working for Connolly and without vetting, that of course would have been a much bigger story.

    Certainly a question about Connolly's judgement, but more about an issue that is not seen as being of major importance.



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