Israel/Palestine Thread

disingenuous at best.

Palestinian civilians in Gaza are being slaughtered and starved to death - Genocide.

Calling Israel a "big bad wolf" is childish and demeaning. Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity. It's not a fairy tale.

But you've missed the point - it's irrelevent who is in Gaza - if it was Irish, British or even Israeli citizens living there, the Israel Genocide would be wrong.

There were polls posted here many times regarding the support for the war in Israel. These polls varied from time to time yet the numbers ranged from 67% up to 91% if memory serves me right (cannot find them now).

Palestinians did not get to vote in 20 years (2006) regarding their support for Hamas. I know that a lot of them celebrated Oct 7th at the time and maybe they felt entitled to after their treatment detestable from the Israelis since 1948.

I hope so. Hamas should be replaced and so should the leadership in Israel. More moderate governments need to come into power and the warmongers handed over to the ICC.

Lots of probablies in that post and little fact though it's interesting to see you believe that the planned torture, rape and murder of 1200 people and the capture of 251 people including babies with their subsequent torture and killing doesn't rate in any scale.

Says a lot about you.

You missed it by a mile.

And that was probably fiction.

from Jeremy Bowen, BBC.

Seems the utterly useless GFH is gone. UN is back in charge of aid. Also note his comment on the old canard if Hamas stealing aid peddled regularly in this thread:

The UN is preparing to bring in hundreds and hundreds of aid trucks a day to Gaza. This is a huge sea change.

If we look back, Israel - without providing convincing evidence publicly or to the UN - claimed UN food was being stolen by Hamas in Gaza. It set up a body with the US called the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) to replace the UN system. 

A BBC Panorama investigation in September included convincing figures from a body called Armed Conflict Location and Event Data that showed at least 1,300 Palestinians have been killed at those sites.

Now it seems the old system is back. The UN is in charge of bringing aid in, and it appears, as far as we can tell, that GHF sites have been closed in Gaza.

A video on social media appears to show Palestinians picking around the ruins of one of the sites located in the north close to Gaza City. I'm told others in Rafah in the south, where Israel still has troops, have also ceased operations.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said many times that there is a food surplus in Gaza and that there was no starvation. But he has now agreed that hundreds of UN aid trucks will now go into the territory and the GHF, which he was so instrumental in setting up to try to get around the UN, now appears, as far as we can see, to be in the dustbin of history.

The superiority on display is remarkable here.

Reading responses here reminds me horse with blinkers on. No wonder why bloody conflicts like the one over there happens. You get at least one hardheaded group and it ends up in minced meat..

I thought Hamas were nearly all wiped out ? I read it here I think. Your figures would indicate that even more civilians were bombed to bits and less Hamas ??

I'm surprised you're surprised. You're obviously not aware of the china agreement which the Palestinian groups signed last year where they all agreed that Hamas would lead any government of the Palestinian territories.

which Palestinian groups? Source?

Yep - that's the Israeli MO alright. Take by force, agree to ceasefires then renege on them. Rinse and repeat.