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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,497 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


     maybe go on a fact-finding mission.

    Look what happened when she went on the last one. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    The 'Nato Expansion' thesis is always baffling at a fundimental level. Nato is an organization that countries must apply to, for membership of. How anyone can claim that it is, 'expanding' on its own, I just dont understand it, its not credible. And you are correct, it feeds into the Putin Narrative. He has always had a vested interest in portraying his war 'special military operation', as somehow responding to 'Nato Expansion'.

    This is what happens when the Left in Ireland, empower their own activist class, and nominate a radical for high office. We end up with the tail wagging the dog. And it damages the Left as a whole, and perpetuates FFG duopoly.

    I dont know what to expect from Todays RTE Radio Debate - but sure fire questions will include

    • Would you hire a rapist to work in the Aras
    • Do u think it appropriate to use tax payer funded expenses to visit Syria under Assad
    • And probably some more questioning of the Eirigi story, which has yet to go away entirely

    This will, no doubt, be followed by bewildering commentary on how the 'establishment media, and large elite political parties are conspiring to bring down Connollys campaign, and elect Humphreys'.

    Its crazy making at times

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Also, whatever about the underlying merits or lack thereof, the last eastward NATO "expansion" before the invasion of Ukraine was in 2004, so the entire thesis is incredibly stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You have said to posters that you'd like to see a level of objectivity, however your posts are all focused towards Connolly's mistakes and beliefs, very little if anything about Humphrey's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    The talking points at this stage of the election are all in relation to CC. And bringing them up is entirely valid. In the last 48 hours, despite the media still eviscerating FF over Gavin, Connolly has provided them with

    • Would she employ a rapist in the Aras
    • Answered the questions RE her trip to Syria with - 'No Assad did not fund my trip, the Irish Tax Payer did'

    All self inflicted, all entirely avoidable, all worthy of inquiry.

    As to whether it effects the voters: Well, it wont effect her base, they seem to love it all, no matter what.

    Il be listening so we just have to see where it goes.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭BQQ


    no questions for Heather?

    Sure she needn’t bother showing up, so.


    maybe they could ask about her tax evasion?

    I’m sure your balanced and objective take on that is coming any second now . . .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,497 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The pejorative framing of those posts and the advice that she must recoil from her opinions is there in plain sight in Liam's posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,388 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Yes, it was tongue in cheek. There's actually no need to go on these 'fact-finding missions', especially in the case of Syria where the only facts available would have been state sanctioned ones.

    With the Baltic states, should be no problem giving them a call and asking why they expanded NATO. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Also in answer to @BQQ in post above

    Well thats not true, in so far as i have repeatidly criticized Humphreys lack of energy. Her campaign is lacklustre in the extreme, and she hasnt energized anyone.

    Im happy to receive criticism personally, and you are welcome to your opinion. But the talking points of the election as a whole, right now, are all Connolly centric. What justifiable criticism we can have about Humphreys is being lost in the wind. And this is entirely as a result of Connolly's series of unforced errors, in dealing with valid questions from journalists.

    But just to highlight the HH related stories

    • She failed to engaging with the grieving family of a victim of road traffic.
    • Behind closed doors of a cabinet meeting, she criticized drunk driving legislations (secondary story of a member of cabinet breaking confidentiality)
    • She has not adequatly learned the Irish Language despite having years to do so as a minister.
    • Her campaign gafs and spoofs regarding poorly answered questions to journalists
    • Her campaign confusing Berlin with Belfast
    • The conduct of her campaign being lacklustre, as being representative of the fact she was not the FIRST choice of her party.

    Both candidates in this election are aweful, there is no doubt about that. But one candidate has courted nothing but contraversy, and entangled her supporters into an elborate spin about how she is being 'attacked and smeared'! And by journalists who have the temerity to quote her, IN CONTEXT!

    Please do read back my previous posts, i have always tried to remain objective. But in a race between a Non-Entity, and a Loud Activist with Fringe views, there is obviously going to be more discussion around the latter.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    If she is to be a President for All as she claims, yes, she needs to recoil from some of her opinions which are at best, naive, and at worst extremely damaging to Ireland's interests.

    NATO is not expanding (countries are seeking shelter under the NATO umbrella for good reasons), Russia is a threat to Europe, Syria under Assad did not deserve her sympathy, Gemma O'Doherty was never a good Presidential candidate, convicted gun terrorists should not be employed in a parliament, a convicted rapist should not be employed at the Aras, Germany is not like the 1930s, the US, France and the UK are good allies and friends of Ireland, the taxpayer should not have funded her trip to Syria, etc.

    I have a question for her. She said in her most recent interview that she would like to visit Palestine as President. Will she wear the full hijab when she does so?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    I was poking fun at comments, a joke which obviously went over your head. It's ok, happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    That is more objective and I commend you for that, however even in that you continued to talk about Connolly over and over again.

    You also did leave out her not paying property tax.

    It's ok to be leaning more to one side, which you very much are, it's clear from your posts that you'd prefer HH over CC to be elected.

    I just believe that's it's a bit hypocritical to be calling for objectiveness from other posters when you are leaning towards one candidate over the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    From my recollection, @liamtech has said that he is voting for Connolly.

    What is stunning is the defensiveness of Connolly supporters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    To be fair if you look at the campaign as it's gone so far Heather Humphreys hasn't really done anything wrong, she hasn't done anything right either. She has been quiet throughout. So of course most of the discussion is going to be about Catherine Connolly - she's the one making statements on stuff.

    Like others I'm a lefty who has issues with Connolly. I'm still like 95% certain I'll vote for her, but she hasn't made it easy (Fine Gael not getting the presidency yet again in a 2-horse race is funny enough to make it easier to vote for CC though).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,497 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,388 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    I think the issue with Connolly is that a lot of people who would likely vote for her (me included) but who have qualms about some of the nonsense she's come out with (e.g. NATO expansion) aren't getting much comfort from her at the moment.

    To me, she doesn't seem to learn from her mistakes, she was still wittering on last night about war-mongering and defence spending whilst completely ignoring the elephant (bear) in the room. "I've continuosly condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine" but won't acknowledge what that invasion has done to security in Europe.

    And evey time whe was asked a difficult question we got "I'll think about it and reflect". WTAF. Would you employ a convicted rapist in the Áras? I'll think about it and reflect… Great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I concede entirely, that i failed to mention the property tax. 100% point acknowledged @Rocket_GD

    In my defense, for the last 4-5 odd pages of this thread, all i have been responding to, is pro Connolly spin, which is being delivered in a very bad faith way. To give them credit for a change, Connollys incendiary talking points, RE Rapists in the Aras, and tax payer trips to Syria, has taken over the news cycle. While doing Humphreys a huge favour in terms of burying her own shortcomings. And my point during all of this debate, has been that Connolly herself is responsible for this.

    In terms of my lean. I am a lefty, 100%. Have been all my life, but I am highly critical of the conduct of Connolly supporters who are spinning farcically, on my side of the fence. When i vote for Humphreys, I will literally turn my nose, because it will be the first, and hopefully last time i ever vote for FG.

    But i worry that CCs campaign, the unforced errors, her radical views, will tarnish a possible left wing government in the future. That is what i care about, as any hope we have of breaking the FFG Duopoly depends on left wing co-operation. I do not want to see the activist tale wag the dog of the Irish political left.

    If you see hypocracy, that is your take, and you are entitled to it. But please, sincerely, go back to my previous posts, before making a definitive determination on that front.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,388 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    I think you may need a refresher course on the powers of the President.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    Link not showing for me but above one is. Never used perplexity previous and it gives a different answer to you! Brilliant. I wonder is the paid vs free version and level of thinking.

    "Overall, mainstream coverage remains balanced but critical, emphasizing transparency, policy clarity, and public engagement as key measures of suitability for the presidency."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    It appears that you are wrong, they are voting for Humphreys.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Not wishing to correct you, but I cant vote for her. Despite being a lefty, I cannot vote for someone i deem unsuitable for the role. Earlier in the thread, i hadnt quite made my mind up - but I have no choice but to hold my nose, and vote Humphreys

    I did sincerely consider spoiling my vote, but that will probably be used by the Radical Steen Right camp, and i dont want to be counted on that side of things

    My only alternative would be to NOT vote at all - but obviously i have to, im engaged with politics all my life so.

    This will be the first time, i am voting FG or for any Non Left, Center Left candidate.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,497 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I wasn't referring to the powers of the President, I was referring to the power to censor the President. Humphreys has been rinsed and blow dried by the FG vision of Ireland, she won't stray from that and if she does easily censored back into line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Are you saying therefore that Connolly will deliberately cause a constitutional crisis?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,497 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    There literally IS one rule for Defence Forces personnel and NO rule for Presidents. Are you only realising this now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,136 ✭✭✭corkie


    It was after the quote but not converted to a link, because boards couldn't crawl the link.

    I have a years free subscription to it. (Signed up and immediately canceled sub). Don't think I used a pro search on it, (It was the default setting) because I just triggered it from the comet browser (by them) with high lightening your prompt and let the browser search of the AI do the work.

    I prefer that AI to other chatbots available. Also familiar with its quirks, use it to create PWA's and Extensions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,802 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Are they hit pieces if they're true? She already admitted funding the Syria trip with the Dáil research fund.

    Humphreys doesn't appear to have any similar landmines to Connolly, or they would have hit the media already, so maybe she will be just addressed on policy and principles, in either an easy or hard fashion.

    And I would guess the listenership of Drivetime, habitual enough to actually listen to this closely, have probably already made up their mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Genuine Question

    Does anyone have a link to a reputable source, for the Heather Humphreys Property Tax Story.

    I am aware of it, but i can find no source for it, other than the Ditch

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Administrators Posts: 55,603 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    As a bit of a tangential question, does anyone know why we most commonly use the title President rather than Uachtarán, when we use Taoiseach rather than an English title?



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