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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    A candidate being found to be brazenly lying about the funding for a controversial trip is absolutely not a "gotcha". She has obfuscated or outright lied about so many details of that trip at this point.

    The amount of stuff that she does that is automatically forgiven or written off as a "media witch hunt" that govt TDs would be eviscerated for is absolutely staggering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Nothing is going to sway the support CC has coming from the left- nothing - as I said some pages back, shed have to be exposed as some sort of megalomaniac millionaire investment fund manager before they’d stop voting for her.

    It’s not that CC was winning this election - at the very start it was HH’s to lose (taking into account transfers from Jim)- but that has all changed now- the retirement of Jim and a very poor showing from HH has Connolly firmly ahead by a mile -there are not enough willing voters out there to get HH over the line - unless some real scandal impacts on CC that would boil the blood of typical CC supporters and her support drops overnight, she’s essentially home and dry.
    Really the “sh01te” uncovered about Connolly might annoy HH voters- but it’s not impacting her core voters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    She is so close to winning this election, but Connolly is fully capable of throwing herself under a bus. We may eventually find the source of the Eirigi story, but in an election cycle, such as this one; It is a secondary concern.

    However Eirigi itself is now on the back burner, because CC must now ROLL BACK her statements on 'giving serious consideration' to hiring a rapist. She shouldnt have to think about it at all. For the sake of her campaign, and those left wing groups who backed her, she needs to clarify and roll back these comments.

    @FrancieBrady you mentioned how she removed the video yesterday, and how it was political expedience to do so. We need to see some political expedience on display today, RE this Rapist/Hiring scandal. She could clarify her comments, by citing the difference between the Eirigi case, and that of a sex offender. Offer statistics RE sex offenders and repeat offenses. Something, anything, but she needs to do it.

    You lack all objectivity in how you are viewing CC's campaign so far. She has continually created her own scandal, which the media have dutifully followed. This latest fiasco, itself a response to the eirigi scandal, is growing its own legs. Left wing politicians, who back Connolly will now be asked if they agree, and placed in an ackward position.

    Its damaging to the Left, and to Connolly herself. The fact that you cannot even acknowledge that, and continually blame a supposed orchestrated campaign of 'centrists media and politicians' -

    Honestly, it lacks all credibility. I cant really see a reason to get into the weeds on this. No matter what CC does, you will defend it, and if she loses support, this will feed your conspiratorial view of the entire election.

    Likewise here, there is no co-ordinated effort by any sections of the media. They are literally reporting what Catherine has said. She herself, is the story, and she is throwing petrol on the fire of her own candidacy.

    There is very little else i can say. You folks dont want her to roll back, and will defend her. If she comes out and states,

    'On Giving it Consideration, I can now say that i WOULD CERTAINLY employ a convicted Rapist in the Aras, so long as I felt they had served their time'

    You folks will come out swinging FOR CC, and defend it in the same way. I could go as far as to speculate that, some of you want this response. Its a near cult-like allegiance to the lady, and from the outside, it appears embarassing to watch.

    @feelings If CC wins, then thats that; She SHOULD win, given the state of the election cycle as a whole. But if she keeps doing this, your defence will begin falling on deaf ears. She is empowering all those who wish to see her, AND THE LEFT, fail in this election and beyond.

    Please try to gain some objectivity from this mess

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    What a persecution complex.

    The media hounded Jim Gavin out of the campaign, yet you claim there is a deliberate approach by the media to damage CC.

    She is being held to account for what she has said and done in the same way that Gavin was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Likewise here, there is no co-ordinated effort by any sections of the media. 

    They are literally reporting what Catherine has said. She herself, is the story, and she is throwing petrol on the fire of her own candidacy.

    This, even with a cursory look, is nonsense.
    Sections of the media on a 'crusade' have been repeatedly pointed out and still you insist it is not an 'effort' to tarnish one candidate.

    I want my President to be somebody who does NOT present a PR/Communications company washed and blow dried version of themselves just to win the race.
    If she loses, so be and those who win are welcome to the washed and blow dried non entity.

    Absolutely no apologies for having that view.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    You posted a pic of the sign. In other posts you pointed out the village/ares was mostly Presbyterian and could have fitted in well just as rasily on the other side of the border iirc, at different stages in the thread. There was chat about the OO connection at that time, so I think all in all you introduced points into the debate that were needless. Just my interpretation of digging up dirt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    or a question prompted by something HH was professing at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It was telling lies about money that got Gavin, and he was criticised strongly on these threads for that, nobody defended him.

    Strange that the CC defenders are already trying to deflect this story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The actual job of the President is to be diplomatic, above politics, and reflect the country generally. That does require communication and PR skills.

    Clearly, as you believe that CC does not possess these skills, you should be recommending people vote for other candidates. In fact, this was your leading criticism of Jim Gavin only a short number of days ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    The 'Crusade' against CC, is living rent free in the heads of her supporters. It doesnt exist. CC has repeatidly made herself and her opinions, the story of this election. If she wins, it will merely reflect how badly organized FFG were during this election cycle.

    My only wish, at this point, regardless of the outcome, is that the Left move forward together so they can challenge FFG at the next local and general elections. They need to learn from this, that when they unify, they can garner a lot of support. But they must also avoid unifying under devisive leadership.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,626 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Who removed it? Was it ever there in the first place?

    This is really just an attempt to smear Humphreys over something she is very unlikely to have had anything to do with. And in truth nobody would be trying to associate her with this if she wasn't a Protestant. It's as sectarian as it gets.

    Official Languages Act does not apply to road signs

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Strange how you didn't argue or quibble with my calling out your linking to sexual consent until several hours and several posts later, when you belatedly realised how crass it was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




    My views and the views of people like me are a part of the country too.

    The President should reflect all of the country, not just the consensus views of some.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Still no actual evidence of the claim you said was "clearly demonstrated" yesterday.

    Do you have your own strange definition of 'clearly demonstrated' as being a vague rumours?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭tarvis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The 'Crusade' against CC, is living rent free in the heads of her supporters. It doesnt exist. CC has repeatidly made herself and her opinions, the story of this election. If she wins, it will merely reflect how badly organized FFG were during this election cycle.

    CC has not made Harry McGee's latest gotcha the story, that was McGee taking answer she gave in a different context, switching it around and making some sort of a gotcha out of it.
    The IT also knows tha barristers take on work on all sides all the time and it is a duty to do it, still hasn't stopped them presenting the past work of Connolly as a hypocritical sell-out of her personal beliefs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It was raised in the context of her repeated claims to hold the Irish language as something important to her.
    That her home village has removed Irish from their road sign is unprecedented, and it is a fair question in my opinion to ask if she has objected to this, or has she as a former councillor and local TD aware of how it was done and with who's permission.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Look I think we said a few days ago, that CC had a commanding lead. I said so, and the polls certainly indicated that she looked set to win. Being a 2 horse race, the nature of the election has changed. But i stated clearly, that if anyone was capable of squandering a decent lead in a race such as this, it was Connolly.

    We seem to be watching an attempt to do so, and again - its her own ill-thought-out words, which are leading the charge. We just have to watch what happens next, and see how the next polls look.

    McGee is concentrating on her past 'decision making' actually. Im sure he will get along to 'rapists in the Aras' at some point. And who knows, by then maybe CC will be blaming NATO on the 2011 Japanese Earthquake/Tsunami/Nuclear disaster.

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    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    You avoided the question about how the world and his wife can publish images of MDH but CC needs consent under some mythical rule.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,143 ✭✭✭corkie


    Just shared the video of it on the other thread!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Do you agree or disagree that he is taking her answer 'I paid for it myself' which was given because the questioner was probing if it was paid for by pro Assad elements and is now using it against her because she claimed expenses from the Irish state as all politicians do for these trips?

    Is that honest journalism to you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭mikep


    Waterford whispers had a good take ob CC recently..

    Biased media using facts to smear CC.

    Can't Link it for some reason



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I'll answer,

    It is a political norm in this country that a sitting President, not be seen to endorse in any way, one or more candidates that are running to replace him. The video implied support if not endorsement, which is why it ought have been removed. It was subsequently taken down, so on this one, even CC's campaign agreed that it was a mistake.

    Thats why -

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,373 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Think that Harry also qualified as a barrister.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,815 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I would hope Catherine Connolly would make the election all about herself and her opinions, because, frankly, nothing else particularly matters.

    I mean I'd never vote for her, as I don't agree with any of her positions or opinions, but Heather Humphreys should be taking a similar tack, and unashamedly describing her pro-European centrist free-market liberalism.

    Like it really is a curse of modern Irish politics, that people are afraid of their shite to stand for something. As Hamilton said, 'If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The video implied support if not endorsement,

    In no way shape or form did it 'imply support or endorsement' of any of the Presidents used.

    The clips were briefly shown with a voice over about the type of president Catherine wanted to be.

    You are clearly now posting about something you have been told about the video and haven't actually seen the video.

    Nor did the campaign team 'agree' it was a mistake, they stated it was taken down so as the huha about it would not distract from the campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    @FrancieBrady - you are again, willfully, misinterpreting this story

    Connolly has stated she didnt personally gain from the trip. I welcome you to correct me on this, but it seems that she used her expense account, for the fact finding journey to Syria.

    Perhaps she used her own funds but then 'claimed back' some amount on expenses.

    But the story is live. An amount of tax-payer money was spent on a trip to Syria by Catherine Connolly.

    There isnt an ounce of objectivity being employed her, its pure bad faith at this point.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,504 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Il just lay this out in plain english, and people can make their own minds up.

    - The media probed CC on the topic of who it was that funded her trip to Syria. Was it the Syrian Assad Regime?

    - CC responded that she funded it herself

    - Subsequently, it transpires that she did fund it, using her taxpayer funded expense account.

    - So in fact, we funded it. The Irish Tax payer

    And you, a Catherine Connolly supporter, feel this needs to be highlighted.

    ….. right,ok.

    Good point, I suppose its in keeping with the rest of Connollys campaign so! Yes, @FrancieBrady thanks so much for clarifying this! I feel so much better about it.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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