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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Grey123


    Is he a regular presenter or a behind the scenes guy? First time listening and while some what interesting he didn't seem a great communicator. She was annoying too, trying to put words in his mouth at time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,485 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What?

    You have just read me saying 'no', there is a way to go until there is peace and huge stumbling blocks ahead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,291 ✭✭✭creedp


    I always thought TDs expenses were untouched so unlike most of their constituents they can reclaim expenses irrespective of spend. I’ve heard that Ministers simply divide their annual allowance by 12 and claim monthly in advance. That could be unsubstantiated slander but it’s pretty fitting for the do as I say not as I do brigade. Pity their bosses don’t do something about it…..Oh wait😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    If companies are anything to go by, milage is scrutinised a lot more than in the past - train tickets aren’t “cheap” either - a return from Cork to Dublin could well cost more sometimes than the diesel you’d use in a car - then there’s taxi receipts and what not

    Are TDs subject to lesser milage rates over 5000 miles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,765 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Hes the co-presenter. Im a regular listener, he's a nice lad , she was helping him along because he just completely upturned a presidential election and was probably struggling to deal with it. Hes dead right though, when it blows over he'll feel a weight off his shoulders as it irked him for 15 years



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Grey123


    Ya that was my understanding too, just based on distance from the Dail, because of paperwork… that everyone else somehow has to do.

    The train might be more expensive but the user doesn't benefit 1c if the train costs €20 or €90. Depending on milage band / engine size you can make a bit of cash on milage. And I think you definitely can if you have an EV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It surprises me any interest in this election.

    I'd be surprise if Connolly did not win, Humphreys has an up hill battle to get people out on the day of the vote.

    Those that will go out to vote will be invested Connolly voters and potentially invested spoilers, with an even lower turnout than the last Presidential Election of 44%.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Very hard to argue against that - I’m beginning to think CC will be a landslide - not because of strong voting for her, but rather complete apathy for HH- in other words, a VERY a low turnout with possibly 80% of votes for CC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    CC vs HH debate on Radio 1 RTE at 5PM today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    There is nothing disproportionate about it, and this is the part where i question whether there is any point in replying anymore. Im going to try though, while expecting that on some levels it will be a futile exercise

    We have two candidates left in the field, and they are polar opposites of one another.

    Humphreys lacks charisma, and could easily be accused of being boring. Yes some storys are circulating, but these are being dealt with by her campaign in a timely fashion. Quite honestly, I do expect the media to find more stories and report them, but given what we have seen, one doubts whether emerging HH 'scandal' will even be worth covering.

    The other candidate, Connolly, has a long history of saying questionable, and at times, factually inacurate statements. She has taken these positions and doubled down on them, while the stories have ended up being criticized both home and abroad. Whatsmore, as a politician with years of experience, this will have been no surprise to her.

    Her supporters have bemoaned the coverage as being disproportionate, going as far as to cite incidents where 'other politicians' have been critical of Connolly. If its true, its obviously shocking, and without precident that politicians are critical of rivals. Hold the press, and forward this to the Washington Post, its pure Gold.

    Compared to Humphreys, Connolly is a GOLD MIND of front page stories, and that is her own fault. She is to blame, with some fault also being portioned out to her campaign staff, who appear tactically illiterate. The Eirigi scandal demonstrates that Connolly is going to jump from the frying pan, into the pot, willingly. All she had to do, was give a prepared statement - something Akin to

    'I do believe in rehabilitation, and second chances; but perhaps, on mature recollection, the hiring of a former member of eirigi may have been an error on my part'

    That would have been the end of it. Simple, as it maintains her stance, while acknowledging a possible mistake. A SLIGHT rollback, such as the above, and the campaign and media coverage could move on.

    Did she do this? Of course not, she is Catherine Connolly, a radical activist, she doesnt roll anything back. Therefore, we now have our next scandal, simmering at present, before being covered by the rest of the media. And brought to you from, the lady herself, Catherine Connolly.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/id-have-to-think-about-it-catherine-connolly-responds-to-question-on-whether-she-would-employ-convicted-rapist-in-aras/a2022226817.html

    She made these statements, and it is being covered, its basic journalism. And its going to continue being covered because Catherine Connolly is the biggest story in this election. She is a banquet of stories, compared Humphreys.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Actually you are right sorry. I was confused because thejournal story had a picture of the VM1 studios first debate on the top of the page.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    It’s all Teflon though - it’s a good exercise to see her being challenged and caught out but without her support dropping - it illustrates just how much bullsh1t the left is willing to tolerate to get their “man” into office.

    It’s very similar to what happened in America and Trump, although the CC loyalists here will hate me comparing their precious St. Catherine - blessings be upon her- to Trump 😀.

    Clearly, whether left or right, contentious views are over looked if the field is poor - Harris was a terrible candidate for the Democrats - HH similarly is not hitting the mark with more centre and right leaning voters - with those set of conditions in play, I wouldn’t be surprised if CC claimed she could shoot someone on O’Connell st and still get into the Aras 🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,641 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    spot on. I wouldn’t criticise CC for working and doing her job here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,485 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    'I do believe in rehabilitation, and second chances; but perhaps, on mature recollection, the hiring of a former member of eirigi may have been an error on my part'

    Why would she do that if she believes the opposite.

    Her 'honesty' is her USP if you ask me. It knocked both HH and JG (even before his exposure) into a cocked hat in the polls.

    She simply isn't going to take the PR company directive - stand for nothing and they can't get at you - FF FG way.

    It has very little to do with HH being 'boring' and has every thing to do with the electorate being smart enough to suss that CC is being herself while HH is a 'here's one we prepared earlier' in the FG kitchen confection.

    If you see someone as being essentially honest you can cope with not agreeing with everything they say.

    I think that is what is happening here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Probably the one time I wouldn’t mind being stuck in a traffic jam - would give me a good laugh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,328 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Exactly this for everything related to Connolly, look at the Gemma stuff it took her weeks to admit in hindsight it was probably a mistake when she and her staff should have known it would be the first question out the door so either they didn't know they would get hit with it which is a problem in itself or didn't understand to get it behind them they should have a prepared answer that wasn't effectively "Even with the hindsight that Gemma turned out to be racist alt right conspiracy theorist I still think I didn't do anything wrong".

    She seems incapable of admitting to making any kind of mistake without constant hounding.

    Just look at the comments around Germany and the 1930s not only was she incredibly crass and lazy in making the comparisons as the absolute first thing people would go to was obviously Nazis, she was also completely factually inaccurate as in the 1930s Germany was growing its military spending from 17%-40% of GDP, right now they are looking to increase it to the lofty highs of 3.5%….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    You’re talking her up way too much and giving her credit where it’s not due- it’s much more simple than that - a poor candidate fielded from the centre/right coupled with govt dissatisfaction coupled with protest votes coupled with apathy on the FF/FG side at this stage , hands CC victory - she could rattle off the phone book for the next 2 weeks and she’d still win



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,352 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Provincial newspapers like the IT no longer have the national market they had in 2011 or even in 2018. Before Covid, the IT was selling around 50K copies a day. Most people do not purchase a daily newspaper. This means that the IT is competing with both broadcast media and Social Media for relevance.

    The two weeks before an election are when people make up their minds on voting. But this has been a very strange election campaign. The hit pieces from the legacy media about Connolly have actually worked in her favour because people got to see her on broadcast media and in the debates. She appeared presidential while the other two candidates didn't. That damaged the credibility of the legacy media that had been targeting her. She was the anti-FFG candidate and now she seems to be on the way to becoming the anti-establishment candidate. The stupidity of Harris and Martin in blocking candidates at council level has also helped her. Some of the more conservative voters who might have voted #1 for Steen may have transferred to Humphreys and Gavin. Those voters may not vote now as they have been ignored by FFG. Now, FF has no candidate in the election. FF voters may not even bother voting. Those FF votes on which Humphreys is depending may not appear.

    No amount of propagandising from legacy media journalists can compete with a competent and effective media performance. They simply don't have the same scales of market and reach. The negative coverage of Connolly in the legacy media also has elements in common with the way Trump was covered in the US media. It was that wall to wall coverage of Trump that drowned out coverage of Hillary Clinton in 2016. The same effect is glaringly obvious with the Connolly coverage. Humphreys and Gavin were getting minimal coverage. Connolly was dominating the news cycle. Look at the IT coverage today. Who are they covering?

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Why would she do that if she believes the opposite.

    Please @FrancieBrady - try to parse my answers before replying

    Because she is in a National Election, and she needs to defuse her self inflicted contraversy. Because, morphing the eirigi story into - 'Would she or wouldnt she hire a rapist' - is going to make it even worse

    I could answer it so many ways, honestly. Because shes a politician and should know better? Because she, actually WANTS to appeal to more voters? Come to think of it, i could also answer it this way

    Because she wants to WIN the ELECTION! And having voters now wonder whether she would invite convicted rapists to work in the ARAS, would best be avoided!?

    @FrancieBrady You honestly cannot blame the media for covering this story. Im not saying you have done so with regard to this latest madness; but surely you see that this could have been avoided, and should have been

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I really dont believe this election is over yet. It is/was Connollys to lose.

    But if we are going to wake up every few days, and be greeted by more of these types of stories, it will

    • cut away at her support
    • embolden an 'Anyone But Connolly' campaign.
    • Hand Humphreys sticks to attack CC with

    Its like we are watching a play, called 'How to Lose an Election', or 'How to shoot yourself in the foot' -

    She is LITERALLY doing this to herself.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Who will she appoint to the Council of State? Will we see the Radical Left on it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,328 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Indeed if anyone is of the opinion that Gavin should have repayed the money when it happened(he should have) or that MM should have avoided Gavin when he found out about the 3k(he also should have) to get ahead or avoid that eventual clusterfuck they should also apply the same critiques to Connolly who keeps refusing to even try get ahead of anything or be prepared for the OBVIOUS next issues and questions that are going to keep coming as this is a presidential election and that's how it works like it or not.

    On the evictions story I don't have a problem with her doing her job and I don't have a problem with evictions as they are something that needs to keep happening as stopping them entirely will only create more problems. However her core voter base are likely vehemently anti-eviction so she again needs to be prepared to talk about it the moment its put to her which she never seems ready to do on any of these issues that should have been flagged weeks ago and are going to keep coming.

    Right now it absolutely is her race to lose and she seems to be doing her damnedest to make that happen by refusing to acknowledge that sometimes people ie her make a mistake and the easiest way to kick these stories off the front page is admit to that or be prepared with appropriate answers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,485 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I'm not blaming the media for 'covering' the story. I want to know where the story cam from which is another issue about leaking information that is deemed confidential.

    Of course she wants to 'win an election' and she has decided to do that by being honest, by not stepping back from her beliefs and by not presenting a Communication/PR company rinsed and washed edition of herself. (Jim's tutored hand gestures? Ridiculed from the off)

    You present that as a negative. And you think there is only one way to win an election. I, and I expect many of the electorate are finding it refreshing and worthy of support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭MFPM


    That's simply not true! There is a deliberate approach by the media to damage CC, that is unquestionable in my view. There is an undue focus on CC because she is not a centrist and she dares to have opinions that are deemed either unacceptable or 'controversial' by sections of the pol corrs who are unashamedly centrist themselves.

    Look at how Leahy's column was presented in the IT on Saturday with 'Russia' and 'CC', it's subtle to a point but it's so blatantly obvious what it's intention- the same play book used against Saunders in the US, Corbyn in the UK etc. Look at John Lee in the Mail or Mooney in the ST....these are woefully biased journos pursuing a deliberate strategy.

    Today, there's the use of the allowance - why is this a story, it's a story because it's the IT trying to use the Syria angle to damage her having seen it fail miserably the first time.

    Your continued insistence at blaming CC and essentially giving the media a free pass is wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    I agree with MFPM - it’s obvious there’s a coordinated effort by sections of the media to undermine CC.

    On a separate note, from conversations with friends, family, colleagues, and even random people I’ve spoken with, it really feels like support for CC is growing.

    Meanwhile, HH’s campaign is so lacklustre it almost seems like she doesn’t actually want the job. I thought with JG withdrawing it might energize her campaign a bit, but she really hasn't stepped up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,485 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I have to agree here, the IT is on what can only be described as a 'crusade' against a single candidate.

    Anyone with an interest knows(and the current Syria smearing is not aimed at those who know)that the context of the original question - 'who funded the trip' - was seeking to find out was it funded by those sympathetic to al-Assad.
    Now the answer at the time 'I funded it myself' is being used as a gotcha.
    It is so obviously transparent stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,658 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    A problem for HH is that she doesn't seem very presidential. Very chatty and folky (nothing wrong with that of course) but seems more like someone who is a chairperson of a local committee or something, rather than a head of state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    Could say the same for CC, she's a bit 'rough around the edges' so to speak in terms of how she expresses her opinions. But perhaps that’s also what makes her come across as genuine and unfiltered, rather than rehearsed or sticking to party lines.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,352 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Her handlers are trying to package her as a "character" because she simply isn't presidential in the way that Connolly has managed to appear.

    Regards…jmcc



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