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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,851 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Try a tiny hint of honesty for once - it might do you some good.


    I never made mention of any sexual context for consent until you introduced it - seemingly because you’re incapable of seeing any criticism of the Connolly campaign without resorting to personal abuse.

    You jumped in two-footed to your conclusions, and then spend countless posts blaming someone else for the conclusions your imagination lead you to. Grow a pair and own it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,851 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    She was working as a barrister. Under the rules of the profession she wasn’t permitted to refuse the brief from Bank of Scotland Ireland on ideological grounds.

    There’s plenty Connolly can be legitimately criticised for - but that isn’t one of them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Do you understand how barristers work? And how they take on clients?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭gk5000


    Being a barrister, banker, bailiff, sheriff - leveller, wrecker - is not a get out of jail card - irrespective of whether they are just doing their job - irrespective of whether you agree with them or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,851 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Being a barrister has very specific rules about when you can or cannot refuse a client. It’s one profession which is explicitly different to pretty much every other one in that regard



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,503 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    So somebody doing their job as all barristers do is the same as a guy stiffing someone out of over 3 grand and he and his party thinking he could be President?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/catherine-connolly-says-she-did-represent-banks-in-courts-but-fails-to-clarify-whether-it-included-home-repossession-cases/a2101119691.html

    I don't know about that, the evidence is building up and up.

    As I said, she keeps hiding behind technicalities. Pretending she took down videos for editorial reasons, pretending it was personal to ask her about security vetting, pretending it was personal to ask her about the people she helped the banks evict.

    There is more to run on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭gk5000


    That's still a moral cop out.

    If you don't agree with it then don't do it.

    She has agreed to become a barrister and all that entails - by free choice. Don't allow her to run away from her decisions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Wrong, I explained to you the GDPR issues. I explained to you the conventions that Michael D is above politics. The statement from the President backs me up 100% on this. She tried to pull a fast one and got caught out, FF must be looking on in amazement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I know I'm important and all that, and you want to expose my faux outrage, but surely it is more important to talk about the candidates. In particular, isn't it important to expose the faux sympathy of someone who on the Galway Housing Action Group while also helping banks evict homeowners?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭gk5000


    Edit to add : she would have to also specialise in the legal subset governing evictions - so an even more specific choice.

    Own it - whether you agree with the need for evictions or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It was lucrative business to take the work of the banks and evict people. The people being evicted mightn't pay, but the big banks would definitely pay her.

    I don't blame her for that, we all need to work, and this country has made it difficult to evict non-payers, and I am sure she made a good living from it.

    Where I have a problem is that she is refusing to address it. This has echoes of Jim Gavin. If he had come clean on the tenant, he might be still in the race. CC is trying to be too clever, this may be her downfall.

    Even then, the exposure of her hypocrisy could equally be her downfall. She must be sweating out there in case there is some ex-homeowner with a story of how she attacked them in court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭MFPM


    On and on it goes....this won't be her downfall, indeed the media are in real danger of over egging this crap and it may backfire on them, time will tell.

    Your boy, JG jumped/was pushed because he was inept, out of his depth, was on 15% in the polls and then along came a story about him lying, being an unregistered landlord and not paying back a relatively small amount of money for 16 years, that was simply the straw that broke him. He had 0 chance of winning and wasn't prepared to front up for the remainder of the campaign and he jumped/was pushed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    You’re getting more dramatic with every post. The thought of CC winning clearly has you rattled. I'll admit though, your posts are genuinely more entertaining than the campaign. 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,188 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Actually when successive posters are making it about me or about Jim Gavin, they are the ones running scared.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭MFPM


    You engaged in idle speculation, nothing noteworthy to address, although you did accuseher of hypocrisy with no evidence.

    What I did was clarify why JG jumped/was pushed and it was far more than not addressing the 3k...he graphically demonstrated he was utterly unsuitable for the role, yet amusingly enough you were here championing him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭MFPM


    It's about you because you're the one posting this stuff.

    CC has a great chance of winning this election, I gave her very little chance at the outset, I felt who ever finished first of the two government candidates would win. The campaign and polls have changed that dynamic...I'm more hopeful for CC now, far from certain she'll do it but 'running scared' I most certainly am not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    I find myself defending CC here. Anybody involved in repossessions is regarded as the devil incarnate. As it happens we needed more repossessions in the property crash, and faster ones too, especially when people who gambled in the market refused to face up to their responsibilities.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,481 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Lots of rural TDs use the train. famously, Jackie Healy Rae used get the train with the free travel, then claim mileage for travelling, absolute gangster behavior but apparently there was no rule against it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Regardless of who you support in this election, the stories will continue to roll in from everywhere, and anywhere. It would seem to me that Connollys hands were probably tied, and she did the job required of her. If that included repossessions, then so be it.

    That said, its a presidential election. I wouldnt be surprised at all if individual people, who had their houses repossessed in proceedings that involved Connolly, begin to come forward. They have a right to do so. While it may not be possible for Connolly to get into specifics on these issues, for legal reasons; There will be no impediments on a private citizens; Nothing is preventing them from telling their story. I fully expect this to come up.

    On this one I feel some sympathy for CC, its a tough job to do, distasteful certainly. Although it was her job and her hands were tied, if more stories emerge it will cause damage to her campaign. She probably needs to clarify what she can on this issue. The fact that she didnt rule out repossessions in the article, probably means there were a few.

    Were I in her shoes, i would get out on front of this. Not being a barrister, im unsure where she stands.

    I fully expect that she cannot go into specifics, but surely a clarification could be permissible. Akin to her saying, yes this happened for 'certain' clients et al. She could spin it, as evidence of how she conducts herself when a job requires her to take actions which conflict with her opinion? I mean, if i am a voter, worrying whether or not CC would sign in to law, a bill which she disagrees with; I really do have an answer now. She will do the job required of her, regardless of personal beliefs or opinions.

    Optically its a bad situation though. Spin or no spin, if the stories emerge, they may be quite damaging. And if her hands are tied, legally, then the story as a whole may fester in the public square. Like i said at the start, its a presidential election. There are only two candidates, and more of these skeletons will pop up from both of their closets. We just have to judge how relevent they are to each of their campaigns. This one is, or is not relevent, depending on how you feel about CC, and what your opinion is on repossessions.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Good post.

    With regard to the signing into law bills that she might disagree with, I agree with you, she would do her job I'm sure. If not and she was acting a in a way which was causing her to act uncostitutionally, she would have to resign or be removed from office. The president cannot stymie the democratic process unless the bill is deemed to be unconstitutional.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    attack in court, you obviously have no idea how repossion works.. funniest post I have read in a while



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Interesting that the politicians attacking her are FG politicians, their party inextricably linked to homelessness, children in hotels etc, etc...not sure HH will be chiming in on this narrative but one can never tell with FG.

    On a broader note, it's really unseemly the extent to which the media are digging 'dirt' - the limitations on the office of President mean the campaign debates are non policy debates and thus issues are somewhat manufactured.

    The disproportionate focus by the media on CC as they've done for some time may backfire significantly.

    HH has very little to say and ironically her vaccuouness is a help - FG are using the Nina Carberry approach to this campaign though obviously here HH has to participate in some debates.

    CC on the other hand, like her or hate her has far more substance to her but every utterance by her is given headline billing.

    I for one will be immeasurably delighted if CC wins on the 24th, the president for me is largely symbolic and a tad irrelevant but if CC were to win her victory would be more significant given the approach of the bulk of the media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The Irish Times trying to hit Connolly on using "tax payer funded allowances" for Syria trip. It is getting a bit desperate at this stage. Paddy Power has Connolly at 2/7 and Humphreys at 5/2. As usual, FFers prove spineless and grovel before Martin. It will be interesting to see the Irish Times/Ipsos-B&A poll and the RedC poll.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I saw that...unfortunately two more weeks of this nonsense..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,771 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    The crime world podcast on the jim gavin fiasco was good. He certainly wasn't sitting on this since 2010 , it was even an in joke with his colleagues and friends. He'd get texts every time dublin won an all ireland saying "there's yer mate jim" 😀😀 jim losing the rag when he delivered a solicitors letter to his parents house showed unsuitability for President



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Yes, there's a desperation out there now. Dirt digging is the order of the day from here till the election. The champions of repossesion culture now questioning the fact that CC might have represented banks in repossession çases to use as a criticism. CC certainly has been the spark candidate in this election.

    I'm not in her camp because she's not in the political spectre that I'd support and I'd regard a lot of her uttering and actions on many political issues, as well as her choice of allies as ridiculous. But her doing her job as a barrister well......... hardly a criticism of her ability to be president. As for the matter in the Times about the expensed, they all do their jollies occasionally and as long as she hasn't acted illegally, it's a non issue. Just dirt.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,503 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I think the barrister nonsense is the story that is liable to consolidate support for CC.

    I said back earlier in the thread that the anti CC's needed to thread carefully because it could be seen as desperate mudslinging and bring support to her rather than take it away.

    Can't remember what it was but barrister Jim O'Callaghan had the fact he had represented Gerry Adams sensationally thrown at him. The cab-rank rule got explained and they moved on. Callaghan is now mentioned in dispatches as leader of FF.



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