Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

I don't think some people understand what I am trying to say here.

The scheme is backed by the PET producers and ultimately those that profit most from the use of the containers - at the behest of a weak directive EU wide that ultimately hasn't and won't solve the actual problem which is the reduction in plastics use in containers. All that happens is the "collection" rates may go up (because now they are accurately measured) but the reuse and most importantly the reduce will not improve to any measurable level.

The only way you get change is IF its uneconomical for the producers to use the same containers because either they are paying a higher rate for them OR the consumers are which means consumers look elsewhere for what they might have gotten, forcing producers into a change in how they do things.

This scheme has taken ALL of the responsibility off of both the producers and I'd argue the EU to come up with a method to reduce plastics use and is (as has been admitted by a couple of people) literally just kicking the can down the road (things will get better etc, but it won't)

The scheme itself has been poorly researched, poorly implemented and poorly run if you ask me, but even if it these things were perfect, the ultimate issue is not getting any better, its getting worse.

Collection targets are all these schemes are set to meet. Not Reduction, Reusing or indeed Recycling. As such, these schemes are completely pointless, in their current implementaiton of reduction, reuse or most importantly the reduction of plastics use.

The point I am making on our scheme (as many have said) that even as a "best in class" collection scheme, it has very obvious deficiencies and has missed out on a proper implemention that uses the best of what is already out there. It's still a pointless scheme for the environment however - which is my core issue at this point.

I am not sure what your own motives are but you don't seem to like any negativity towards this whole implementation. I am not sure why.

Edit: I just read the link - very familiar complaints…..

I have seen this happen occasionally, but absolutely not consistently, with anything in any form of discount deal in Tesco Express.

Something akin to this might actually be less harmful which when you think about it is frankly nuts.

Half price really with the DRS.

I think a recent interview with the CEO said there was five bulk so far. Drop in the ocean if what would get used

One would imagine that any political party or politician with a degree of sense would see that the scheme isn't working… Aontú are strange in that regard. The fact that €66m hasn't been returned is a huge cause for concern even for supporters of the scheme

Some things they could and should do to fix it

• Use the €66m and any other excess to offer increased return rate promotional periods.
• Allow the return of crushed cans and bottles
• Re-nationalise bin collections, the privatisation of with this scheme is only bad for consumers

But then again the govt kept its majority last year so I can only assume none of this will be actually implemented

They should put some of the excess money in the kitty into buying bulk machines - it would improve the experience considerably for most people.

The process being slow is a major pain in the ass at busy locations.

Spent 20 mins feeding machine with bottles and cans and 47 euro return and none rejected.

Now got empty crates and bags to refill again.