Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Israel/Palestine Thread

Options
1178317841786178817892009

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭brickster69


    It's all a bit hush hush what goes on at Akrotiri and all these flights in and out to Israel's air bases. No one can talk about it according to this guy. Probably nothing.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Randycove


    yes I do and I have explained why. There’s no point explaining it again because you want to believe otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Randycove


    you want the RAF to disclose the Rivet Joint flights over the Black Sea?

    Oh sorry, I see who I’m replying to now, of course you do.

    Did you send Vlad a birthday card?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,433 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    One has to wonder who funds these so called 'activists flotillas' which seem to becoming prolific now.

    Be nice to know the full background as the same names set to crop up in these situations regularly.

    Not in anyway criticising them but there seems to be veils drawn over their full funding setup.

    Be nice to know .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123884790#Comment_123884790

    So, just to clarify, you believed the British government previously in relation to support of Israel when they were found to be untruthful but believe them this time again.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    So you disapprove of illegal occupations I take it?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    Hamas funded it Brendan.

    Greta Thurnberg is in Hamas. So are all the Irish lads on board. All Jihadis. For some reason.

    Didn't you get the news? Proof is below. 100% legit. Straight from the Israel foreign ministry.

    https://x.com/Ostrov_A/status/1973000763178721536



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Yes it's keeping Greta in the news, was that what the flotilla was about?

    Listening on the radio this morning to the first Irish protestors arriving at T1, they couldn't give an answer when asked 'what did you achieve?'. Apparently it was symbolic or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Randycove


    not sure what the relevance is, do you want me to condemn the genocide in Gaza?
    is there some sort of law that you have to believe in one distinct set of “facts” otherwise you’re an Israeli supporter, is that how it goes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I’m just trying to ascertain if you are opposed to illegal occupations in principle or subject to the parties involved.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Symbolic? All about them? I remember the same being said about Mary Manning and a handful of Dunne’s Stores workers refusing to handle apartheid South African fruit.

    “During the strike, the workers faced police violence, abuse from strikebreakers, condemnation from some church figures, surveillance by special branch police, and victimization by their employer. Yet, they remained steadfast in their protest despite these hardships. The strike was also met with mixed public reactions—while some passersby expressed support, others were hostile or made ignorant remarks. The management at Dunnes Stores was firm in opposing the strike, issuing warnings and attempting to intimidate the workers.
    Their sustained action ultimately pressured the Irish government to ban the importation of South African goods in 1987, a significant victory acknowledging their cause. The strike received international recognition and support, including praise from Nelson Mandela and Archbishop Desmond Tutu, who commended their bravery and solidarity.”

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,762 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Yes Brendan would love if that were true. Of course Brendan would not have any questions to begin with about the funding of the flotilla if it involved a country he was opposed to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭brickster69


    A good bit of journalism from Chanel 4, looks like supplies are speeding up lately than stopping, probably just helmets and things though. Even if they sent bullets the IDF promised they won't use them to shoot people trying to get access to food or something.

    bullets.png

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,955 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    2 years on and H*mas have not been obliterated. They (H*mas) are winning the global propaganda war. Time to level the place and bring this matter to an end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,589 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    So you're calling for the obliteration of Gaza, the current genocide is not enough for you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I remember the Dunnes antiapartheid campaign also and if these flotilla people were advocating something similar I'd be supporting them. Something like a boycott of Israeli goods/tourism or U.S. imports I'd happily support.

    The flotilla isn't equivalent it's a distraction from the war on Gaza and settler aggression in the West Bank.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Randycove




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,955 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I'm calling for the obliteration of H*mas. The civilians have been given more than enough notice (including specific notices in advance of the attacks) to leave. Anyone there left is either h*mas or a supporter of them. Remember "from the river to the sea" means the eradication of any jewish state, therefore they are unwilling to accept the existence of Israel at all. This is why they (gaza residents) have rejected a two state solution many times already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    You are far from the only sociopath posting on this thread. At least you are honest about it though. I think.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,589 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Ye so let Israel do as they want and continue to allow them to steal Palestinian land as they have been doing for decades.

    How can you support them when they have actively been starving and murdering children in Gaza?

    I expect an actual response to that question or will you do the pro genocide tactic of choosing to ignore it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,762 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It's not a game, there is no need to be evasive. If you are against the illegal occupation of Ukraine , then presumably you are also against the illegal occupation of the West Bank. If you continue to avoid answering the question, the perception will be you are not against illegal occupations as a principle.

    Blanch152 mentioned rules. It's a pity it isn't a rule that people answer questions rather than continually avoid them, especially when it can enlighten us on where a poster stands on an issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,708 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    people love attention and pats on the back. Just the way we are. And the bigger the audience the more appealing!

    Israelis had it spot on first time: selfie-flotila

    Charlotte Church in Wales other day singing names of dead children in Gaza and fake-crying. No singing for those butchered 2 years ago. People are weird

    Oh, and some Irish social media head weeks back on her hunger strike for the OTB bill, and who gave up because she was hungry. There’s a huge market for this nonsense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    They are advocating something similar. They are aligned with the BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) Movement.

    It is not a distraction from the plight of the Palestinians. Rather it is an effective way of highlighting it.
    That the Israelis conducted drone strikes in the waters of a neutral country to prevent it, yet again breaking international law, shows how fearful they are and effective it has been.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Yes people love attention. Hence edge lords on social media peddling, “bomb the rubble, there are no innocent civilians” narratives.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    "They are advocating something similar."

    Sorry I thought they were trying to bring food and medical supplies to Gaza. They failed, which was predictable, and instead they, their boats and the supplies ended up with the Israelis.

    If you think that's an effective way of highlighting the plight of the Palestinians in Gaza then you're deluded. It highlights the ability of Israel to stop and then return them home in good condition to immediately start attacking their own governments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Randycove


    it is a game, because as soon as someone disagrees with something then they resort to the “do you condemn….” Or similar. Usually completely unrelated.
    of course I am against Israeli occupation of Palestine. I firmly believe that the only way bloodshed will end in the region is for a two state solution which is honoured by both parties. I have said numerous times that Israel and Hamas need to accept that Palestine and Israel aren’t going anywhere and they they need to find a way of living next to each other in peace.
    it has become a tribal thing though. Unless you constantly call for the release of the hostages, you are anti semetic, if you have no sympathy for Palestine Action, you are pro genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Any singing in Israel for the Israelis butchered by the IDF (Hannibal Directive)?

    Oh wait - there can't be. It didn't happen. Because the enquiry demanded by over 80% of Israelis on exactly what happened 2 years ago has been steadfastly refused by alleged War Criminal #1 (at large).

    Seems that the Israeli Govt. simply has no interest in the truth - no enquiries, no International press in Gaza, local press in Gaza routinely executed.

    Perhaps you're right - they had it spot on first time - "Let's go Genocide the Palestinians and take Gaza for settlement. But let's make sure no-one knows about it, accuse those against us of being antisemitic and have a good old whinge about "existential" threats."

    Yep - people sure are weird, especially those entrenched in their support of a warmongering terrorist Genocidal State that is a World Pariah. As weird as those lads who prance around cos-playing as Nazis.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    You asked the question as to the purpose of the flotilla a few pages ago. I gave a fairly detailed response.

    Seems you either didn't read it or you are wilfully ignoring it.

    Sorry I wasted my time in trying to help you understand.



Advertisement
Advertisement