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Presidential Election.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,286 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You said

    There ain't just one baddie. Who gains most from scaring us and selling us arms? Follow the money.

    Clearly a dig at the big bad US, right? But most of the European investment in rearmament will go to European firms. This has already been stated as an explicit policy goal, and makes perfect sense. The US is no longer a fully trustworthy ally.

    If European countries are scared it's with very good reason. There's one man responsible for that though, and he's not American.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Why does Lithuania have two Independent days ?



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    Not vague. The US is hugely profiteering from arms sales and the incredibly slanted Ukraine–United States Mineral Resources Agreement where the country defending itself has just got wholeheartedly shafted by its supposed ally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,286 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    For someone who had 'absolutely no time for the IRA or SF', she seems unusually fond of dissident republicans. Employed one straight out of jail, stood bail for another one who went on to be jailed. Odd to say the least.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    MM throwing his party under the bus for his own fvck up is a sight to behold.



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    Anyway, this is all a distraction and on the wrong thread. Hopefully our next President, probably Catherine, can be an advocate for peace in the region. We can use our soft power to some avail. Oiche mhaith.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    "Toxic nationalists" 😁

    She is pro-United Ireland and does not strike me as an apologist for the British empire and partition like most in FFG.

    She, like MDH, is as Shinner as it gets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,286 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The article says that some postal ballots have already been sent out. You can't have some people getting a different ballot from everyone else.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    People who can't see through what her pr people told her to do. All those politicians think people are stupid ,and sometimes they're right .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭yagan


    Is this finally the split where some just join fg and the rest scatter?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


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    Will they blame an intern?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,286 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    So you just ignore the point made

    You're not going to find anyone on here defending Trump's scummy exploitation of Ukraine's minerals

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭dmakc


    It's becoming clear that FF members are talking to the media against MM's wishes. Maybe there will be a mutiny afterall



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    It's an unbelievable level of gaslighting from MM that promoting a random GAA manager for President was somehow a smart piece of political business and the issues that arose were completely unforeseen.

    His parliamentary party should share the blame in this since they all backed him seemingly without reservation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Well the ones that voted for him, this is what you'd call be bounced into something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Another twist of the knife. Looks like the Indo hopes that it may be about to end Martin's career.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭jmcc


    29 of the FF parliamentary party did not. Now, there are FF TDs claiming to have been frogmarched out to support Gavin. The Gavin-Kelleher vote was a big hit to Martin's credibility. The Indo's headline will cause more problems for him. As for Martin and reviews, perhaps they will given him a report that he will not read.

    O'Cuiv blew the lies about Martin's recovery of FF out of the water. In 2007, FF was on 41.6%. In 2011, FF was on 17.4%. In 2024, it was on 21.9%. That's not a recovery. This Gavin fiasco was nothing more than Martin trying to install his mini-me in the Aras. It wouldn't be in the least surprising to see Martin wanting FFers to back Humphreys.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭riddles


    In fairness worked in the EU elections a jockey of moderate fame, a beauty pagent winner and a johnny on the spot news reporter all got elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The larger constituencies make the brand awareness of candidates much more important than they would be for a Dail election. With a smaller constituency, people might know or meet their candidates. With a large constituency, people are less likely to meet their candidates. Mullooly was a regional correspondent for RTE for about 25 years. The other two examples had an element of fame. The photos of the candidates are also on the ballot papers. This is where recognition comes into it. If they recognise a candidate, voters might be more likely to vote for them.

    With Gavin, few outside of the GAA had even heard of him. The brand awareness thing is also why the debates are so decisive in that people get to watch the candidates without the filiter of the legacy media telling people what to think about them. Gavin made a mess of the first debate and looked like a mini-me version Martin complete with all the gestures.

    Compared to Gavin and Humphreys, Connolly is much more effective at using these opportunities. Bob Geldof or Miriam O'Callaghan would have been better FF candidates.

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    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭spakman


    It was the Indo that informed FF about the tenant issue (if the story is accurate), so the paper didn't need anyone from within FF to leak the story.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The problem for Martin is that there are FFers claiming that FF knew about this problem in early September.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Even if Martin survives, he'll be a lame duck party leader. His ability to impose his singular will on the party has been shattered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Chambers seemed to have been his chosen successor. Now, it looks like O'Callaghan is going to take over. There are some FFers waiting in the long grass for Martin. Watch for Martin loyalists trying to distance themselves over the Gavin fiasco. The front bench owe their positions to Martin so those not running again might be the first to speak out.

    Kelleher is becoming a focus for the discontent. What could happen is that the Gavin issue will be used to remove Martin as leader and leave him as taoiseach for the moment. Faced with that humiliation (what he did to Cowen), Martin might even threaten to resign as taoiseach in order to face down the challenge. This presidential election is quite entertaining. Kelleher would have been a much better candidate but Martin's ego was more important than FF party interests.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Certainly if the Indo headline is anything to go by- when watching the MM interview last night, he couldn’t have been clearer on timelines and what was asked etc - he nailed his colours to the mast- if different accounts now emerge, then it’s curtains for him even sooner than currently predicted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭secman


    This had the shelf life of a head of Lettuce:

    Ladies and gentlemen, colleagues, friends, thank you for joining us this morning for the official launch of the campaign to elect Ireland’s next president, Jim Gavin.

    Today is about another person who has dedicated their life to service; whose professional and personal choices throughout his adult life have been about making the country safer, communities stronger and our shared national experience more joyful and enriching.

    I am talking of course about the man who I hope and believe will be our next, our tenth, Uachtarán na h’Éireann, Jim Gavin.

    Over the past few months, I have taken, and valued, the opportunity to really get to know Jim Gavin.

    His is an extraordinary story. Joining our Defence Forces at just 18, he went on to serve in uniform with distinction for 20 years, achieving the rank of Commandant.

    During that time, he was deployed to some of the most dangerous conflict zones in the world, including as Chief of Military Aviation with the UN Mission in the Central African Republic and Chad, where he commanded personnel from more than 20 countries.

    For context, that mission remains the largest civil protection operation of the 21st century.

     When leaving the military, he marshalled those decades of experience in the national interest within the Irish Aviation Authority.

     He rose to achieve the position of Chief Operations Officer and now leads a team responsible for maintaining the safety of Irish skies, drafting legislation and working with international partners.

     I know for certain that Jim would insist it was his team and not him, but the fact is, that his leadership has helped position Ireland as a global standard-setter in aviation safety.

     And those were just the day jobs!

     Jim is well known for his love of community and his commitment to volunteering – two of the reasons why the Government of Ireland asked him to lead on a particularly important initiative, the North-East Inner-City Taskforce.

     In that role he has been relentless in his dedication and hard work, interacting with agencies across and outside government to deliver for communities facing real challenges.

    And along the way of course, he also found time to forge his legacy as the most successful manager, and possibly the most radical innovator, in the history of one of our country’s most significant and most successful national cultural or sporting institution, the GAA.

     Through that work, he has engaged, competed, celebrated, commiserated, but most importantly connected with communities in cities, towns and villages in all 32 counties of our shared island.

     And he has done all this, and more, with a quiet and self-effacing grace, humour and determination.

     Which brings me back to the months I spent over the summer getting to know Jim.

     In addition to this unique and impressive life story, what became very clear to me was the depth and clarity of his understanding of what being President means.

     He understands that at its best, the role of President is that of a unifier — someone with the connection, vision and experience to bring people together at home and to represent us with pride and authority on the world stage, engaging with other world leaders and connecting an Irish diaspora that spans the entire globe.  

     Our First Citizen, the Commander in Chief of our Defence Forces, our President should be someone who embodies what our nation does best and is steeped in the values of our communities and our country.

     Our next president should be someone who loves the country, understands our place in the world, is committed to the multilateral structures that have underpinned our progress and our success, and someone who we know will never drop the ball.

     Our next president should be Jim Gavin.

     I know that Jim has thought deeply and seriously about his decision to offer himself to the country for this next act of service.

     He does so now with the love and support of his wife, his rock, Jennifer, his son Jude and daughter Jasmine.

     He does so with the united and determined support of the Fianna Fáil organisation across the country.

    And he does so with much more than that. Because I believe that the Irish people understand the value of the Presidency not being about narrow party political or ideological advantage.

     All across the country many people have already seen what Jim Gavin is about – love of family, community and country, dedication to a shared cause, and proven leadership.

     The job for Jim and for all of us now is to bring that message to everyone who will make this important decision on 24th October.

     Jim has already demonstrated his trademark focus and discipline in pursuit of the task, speaking to many thousands of people at the national ploughing championship and having already toured 15 constituencies in the few short weeks since his selection as the Fianna Fáil candidate.

     We will fight an energetic and positive campaign,

    focussing on the actual role and importance of the office,

    and confident in the knowledge that we have a candidate with the temperament, the skills, the energy, the personal and professional experience,

    as well as the vision to be a President that the whole country can be proud of.

     And now, it is my privilege and honour to welcome to the stage that person, Jim Gavin.

     

    Tags: Micheál Martin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,126 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    That was supposed to say Europe, ie west of the Urals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    we all hope! MM has done a solo run on this presidential election, both in the nomination of Gavin over Kelleher, the lack of due diligence (with it seems advanced warning as far back as September), the frog marching of his Ministers into backing Gavin, the dissing of Maria Steen who he is terrified of. His arrogance has grown unbelievably over the last few years, in fact at times I thought he was almost sneering at the Irish public, disdainfully gaslighting everyone and everything they had issues about.

    I think his standing in the EU has gone to his head, he actually believes he is the best boy in class, getting pats on the head from Von Der Leyen, sniggering with Trump about our housing crisis, his image is built on how he is seen abroad, not here in Ireland. It stinks. I am delighted his ego has finally tripped him up, it couldn't have come sooner. I hope this is the sword he perishes on. The only downside is that this has taken the spotlight off Simon Harris who has gone to ground. Harris is a very poor politician, who prefers clickbait soundbites than actually engaging face to face with anyone. How poorly these people represent us.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,579 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I've often wondered what did the chambers family do that gave them so much sway over the party? Probably a topic for another thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,521 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    If the Indo story this morning is true then party members were openly lied to (not to mention the public) directly by Martin and Chambers:

    A number of TDs said they were given “assurances” by the party leadership, ahead of the nomination process, that a proper vetting process had taken place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Interesting how you don't refer to where most of Russia's population is based.



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