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Corballis

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Yep, if they ask the par of the course I’ll just it was 18 holes and refuse any other questions


    @willabur

    So the green just behind it will still be used?

    Agree with the sentiment on the danger on 10 at least



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭blue note


    It's such a shame that they didn't do more than the 8th hole. Anyone could have predicted the additional danger the new layout would cause. And there's enough danger on that course already.

    But the initial plan I heard sounded fantastic - the 8th was to be redesigned to roughly what it has been redesigned to, although I thought the green was going to be more tucked in. It would have turned a fairly boring hole into an interesting one. The tee box on 10 was to be pushed back as far as it would go and the hole become a par 4. Particularly with the setting for that green, you could have turned it into a beautiful hole. And would have lost a relatively boring par 3. And any change to 11 would have been a good thing, it's the only hole I disliked. It was to become a par 3 and there was plenty of potential for a great one. My preference would have been a longish one.

    I assume the problem was who was going to pay for it. The members couldn't if they wanted to. It probably wouldn't be worth Carr golfs while to invest like that into the course, especially when they could lose the contract any year. And I can't see a council investing in a golf course being popular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭willabur


    the new green for the 8th is tucked in. It's in the hallow at the back of the 11th tee box

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    <rant>Sad and angry about the loss of the 8th green, an institution of irish golf. My favourite green complex at the course. In situ >100 years. The original caravaners wanted to set up close to it to share in the serenity and civility of the game, the sights and sounds of the most tranquil corners of the course 😤

    How come the buffer zone created by the campers when they moved in was good enough for them before but isn't any longer? There already was a massive net installed at the cost of the course. Could the course have gone further and purchased the few offending sites?

    I'd say many campers now look with jealous eyes at the site of the old 8th, wasted, unused land now. What a caravan site that would be to hitch up right close to the new 8th green, sharing leisure time in the ambience, serenity and peaceful nature of the game again 😔 </rant>



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭blue note


    I got out to play Corballis a couple of weeks ago. I remembered quickly what my difficulties with the place were. I had a playing handicap of 10 which seems crazy to me. Most courses it goes up slightly and I'll end up with about 14. From 14 you're playing bogey golf and hoping to pick up a few pars. From 10, you need to par every second hole to have a chance of 36 points.

    1st hole - a little long, bounced onto the bank behind the greed and got stuck on a tuft of grass. No way of knowing how it was going to come out so I had to be careful not to hit it too hard and risk running through the green - I got a double for a point.

    2nd - almost perfect tee shot, just slightly left of where I was aiming. Got to the top of the hill and couldn't find it. I can only assume it got a bad kick into the thick stuff. Scratch.

    3rd - didn't get the fade on my drive and it ran into the rough. I took my medicine and tried to just punch out of the rough - I should have had a pop at the green. Club snagged, I didn't get it out. Ended up with a 6 for a point.

    4th hole - I just ran off the green, gave the up and down a good go, but another 1 point bogey.

    And that's Corballis - 4 holes in, no terrible shots and I've 3 points on my card. On the next two holes in fairness I hit bad irons from the tee, so I couldn't complain about getting two double bogeys. Still though, I'd 4 points after 6 holes and really didn't feel I'd played too badly. In fairness, I picked my scoring from there - 28 points overall. But you just don't get away with much at all on the course.

    I got to play the new 8th which was nice. I like what they've done with the hole. I know people liked the old 8th, but I didn't agree. I'd probably have picked it out as one of the weaker ones to be honest. But the green is probably just out of range, but on the right day you might be able to get there. Your gut always tells you to aim at the hole, even from the tee I think it's the natural thing to do. But if you do that and go right you've ruined your hole. So your head will aim you left, but if you overdo it the water will come into play. The bunkers seem well placed too and it's nice that there's a proper bail out area left of the green. There's plenty of room to play a safe approach, but plenty of temptation to be a bit silly with your approach. But the one problem with the hole is the safety issue going right. I thought from the tee that the 11th tee box is in even more danger than before due to people aiming slightly more right. But it's probably out of range for the majority of people. The 10th tee box is in exactly the wrong place though. One of my groups bags was hit while we were teeing off on it. And another ball bounced just to our left. They'll surely have to put up nets there. And then you've the issue of the 11th tee box which those people will then have to play over. So I like the hole, I prefer it to the old one. But I think it's added danger to an already dangerous course.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭willabur


    There is a bit of a developing situation at Corballis. The conditioning of the course was always a bit middling, especially at the collection areas on the par 4s but it always had good greens, it was famous for it. This year however the conditioning has deteriorated to a shocking level to the point that there is a silent quitting situation where members have just chosen not to renew their membership. It is 40 folk at the last count with the number rising every week. Membership is sick to death of broken promises from the operators in relation to the upkeep of the course. The tee boxes are ruined, the fairways are dug up and bare, the greens are in a shocking state, bunkers are on the verge of collapse. Staff have walked because they are getting the blame but they say they have not been given the tools to do their job. All the while the fees have increased, the traffic has increased also - 5 comps a week plus a day packed with societies. In the summer the car park is full after 6 pm with people jumping on and playing without paying their green fee. The land just cannot handle the traffic, its being flogged to death by an operator that simply seems to only cares about green fees

    So what to do? Its getting to a critical point! Stalwarts of the club are walking out, more to follow for sure. The membership have such little leverage with the operators I feel the only thing they can do is get the word out on it. Maybe if people gave honest reviews online about the place after their experience then it would change somethings.

    Anyone here been there recently?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,896 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    I'd suggest contacting some local councillors to apply pressure on the operator.

    Carr Golf are ultimately answerable to Fingal County Council, so that's where the most leverage can be applied.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭blue note


    I've no idea what can be done. I don't like being cynical, but is it an engineered situation? As in they have too many members and want to get rid of them. Jameson links did this by shooting up the membership fee by a grand (while only offering 11 fully open holes). Corballis couldn't handle the loss of green fee income when they took in all the members over COVID. When I was there they pretty much closed off Saturday to members, but maybe that's not enough.

    It's an awful shame. It's hard for the collection areas on the short par 4s to be good. They're just too small for the traffic. But the greens were always terrific. I'd worry the operators just don't see the value in maintaining it to that standard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    I play regulary in winter in the race to 59 every Thursday.

    Didnt corballis lose head greenkeeper and ops manger too

    Played the august bank holiday and the place was in an awful state. As said above. Too much traffic.

    Carr golf are brutal imo.

    They give zero **** about members



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,705 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Always the case...private companies run places like that for profit...not love.

    Bring back Fingal or DCC..

    They were great guys providing a service to the local community and made a big difference to Dublin and golf development for people with less access to golf.....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    It is in an absolutely shocking state at the moment. I'm a member and quite fond of the place, but as it stands; it is probably the worst condition course I have ever played. I can get over the state of the tees, greens and fairways…but holy **** the aprons off the greens are next level diabolical. I would be really curious to hear the feedback from the pro's at the race to 59 just gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Carr maintain plenty of courses including public ones too which are all in good if not great condition.

    What condition is Seapoint in sure?! I suspect this issue is solely related to Corballis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    I'm not advocating for Carr golf or anything but the contract term is too short with them, they only sign 36 month rolling contracts…no company is going to put any future proofing strategy in place with such a short length of guarantee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,896 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Future proofing should be built into the contract with Fingal County Council by way of KPIs around course condition and maintenance plans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Lot of gur this morning and fairways in tatters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭soverybored1878


    Played there last month and thought the same. One of the holes on the front 9 (forget which) had barely any grass on it at all. I put it down to a dry summer. The place is crazy busy all the time though and surely no course can handle that amount of traffic. Societies, comps and the membership of what is essentially two clubs (Elm Green with reciprocal rights).

    This smells of a price rise down the line. To be honest, the place is a steal for what it is. If they whack on an extra tenner and conditions improve, fine. Would still be brilliant value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 769 ✭✭✭mjsc1970


    Always felt they could turn it into the best 9 hole course In Ireland on the land that's there and do away with the poor holes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    Place is in much better nick now in the past few weeks, we've had enough feckin rain anyway to help with all the regrowth. New greenskeeper seems to be doing a good job. Still rough in some patches but much better than it was even just a month ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Ill second this.

    Assume there is a lot less traffic too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭blue note


    I'm playing the European on Thursday so snuck out last Thursday here to remind myself how to swing a club. I was also reminded of why I'm no longer a member here! There was a ferocious wind. On the second hole I hit a 5 wood quite well, but a bit high and spinny. I was worried on the tee that I'd run out of room with it, but that was not an issue. It went all of 108 meters, it didn't even make it up to the ledge! It was literally coming back to me before it hit the ground. Contrast that to a couple of 8 irons I hit downwind of 188 and 185 meters. So obviously the wind was shocking, but that meant that you couldn't just swing normally all day. Every shot needed to be cut down and low which lead to some complete mishits. And those tee box matts that they have are just the worst. You can't get a tee through them at all. The result being that you either have to go off the deck or play from a tee that's just too high. I just couldn't do either!

    It just bet me. For the first 5 holes I was swinging quite well, but was also +8. Then my swing left me - pretty much knocked an iron off the 6th tee, completely knocked it off 7, OB left on 8, knocked it into the water on 9. Without a shadow of a doubt, the Corballis effect on me is to just ruin any golfing ability I have.

    I still really like the course though and will come back!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    Don't beat yourself too much, none of the pro's even broke par that day!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭blue note


    Oh I know. I was playing with one. He got to 8 over on the 6th and with a ball flight I can't even dream of. He walked in with his mate after 14.

    The lad I was left with proceeded to give me a lesson for the last 4 holes (I had picked up on one of the holes so was gone from the comp at that stage). This lad wasn't a pro, just someone offered advice where none was sought. In fairness, he was spot on and I nailed the ball for the last 4 holes and he was really nice too. It did make me chuckle at the time, as as I say, in fairness to him he was spot on with one of the things he said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭soverybored1878


    Question about Corballis, aimed squarely at any existing members here.

    Conditions of parkland courses in Winter here are driving me insane. Is it worth getting a second membership for Corballis so I can play links golf all winter? I'd imagine it's difficult as a member to get out on the timesheet weekends being as reasonably priced as it is.

    They offer memberships on the website so do they just take anyone's money or is there actually room for members to book a decent tee time on Saturday/Sunday?



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