Israel/Palestine Thread

Hamas agrees to release all Israeli hostages...

Israel responds by killing another 65 Palestinians.....

You are importing made up American identity politics into this argument, and again, throwing people who veer to the right under the bus, along with the Jewish people you consistently implicate in this slaughter. Are you saying the right are naturally for this somehow ? That they don't support the UN, the ICJ, humanitarian organizations, international law??

Most people in Ireland have never voted left. I haven't, unless you count Fianna fail. Ireland is dominated for decades by centrist parties - veering left socially recently, as we veer right economically.
Yet I have never met an Irish person in real life supporting this, or putting forward the arguments of the head the balls on this thread, so your point is untrue that "the left" are solely against it.

Human rights are not a leftist ideal - China is on "the Left" and is apparently committing loads of Human Rights violations, including with the Uyghurs and Tibetans as you mentioned before.

Universal Human Rights are the bane of authoritarians, right or left - which Israel definitely are to the Palestinians, I don't see how you could argue against this. People on the left or right of the spectrum can absolutely support Universal Human Rights and be appalled by them being so blatantly violated, protest that Israel be sanctioned, their leaders tried for warcrimes, and international law upheld.

Labour are the Left party in the UK, lead by a Human Rights Lawyer who are gung ho for Israel, denying and enabling genocide, and locking up and labelling pensioners and musicians opposed to it as terrorists.

Russia are so far from "the left" it isn't even funny - an extremely conservative country, who like Israel (who you say are what on the right of them?), invaded their neighbors and are waging a brutal war on civilians. That Iran are on the same side means nothing, Russia and Israel are both at the same thing whilst happening to have different allies. If you call out one and not the other, you are a hypocrite, imo. If Connolly is calling out Israel and not Russia, she is the same.

Russia's biggest supporter in the west seems to be the USA, one of the more right wing western governments generally speaking, and since Trump came back to power, easily the most. Same with the countries in Eastern Europe supporting them, Orban in Hungary, Belarus etc.

And yes - two of the questions on the ADL antisemetism booklets are claiming Jewish people have a hive mind, and claiming that Jewish people are loyal to Israel and not their native countries.
And what do we have here in spades?

Baseless accusations of antisemetism put on those opposed to genocide of Gazans, indicating Jewish people are a hive mind in support of it. It can mean nothing else. If I told you being against stabbing someone was anti Limerick, what would you think of Limerick people? (No offense meant)

Also, people telling us Jewish people are natives of the middle east and not the countries they and their people have lived in for generations. So what, a Jewish person can't really be Irish, isn't really one of us? That is textbook othering.

But it's all flipped on it's head because you paradoxically think youre use of antisemetic tropes is doing them good.

No.

She just wants to say whatever she likes and not be called out on it.

Its one thing to be an apologist,but please don't tell asinine lies because of an ideology you oppose.

If you are concerned about Islamists wanting to destroy Israel you must be disgusted that BiBi is supporting ISIS linked gangs at the moment.

You must equally be appalled that ministers who have called for the elimination of Palestinians are still in office. That must really concern you, and you won't attempt to minimise it by saying they don't represent the government- which if they don't begs the question why are they still in office?

As to the rest of your post,

We have been through this before, Sean, criticism of Israel comes from across the political spectrum.

You continually try to frame it as coming from the left because you don't like the idea that people who share your own political views could also be critical of Israel.

In this thread alone there are people who dont ascribe to left wing ideology that are critical of Israel

The irony is what you accuse Greta of you do yourself. It suits you to slander or denigrate people protesting the genocide because you are in denial about it.

In any case whether she cares or not is irrelevant, it doesn't excuse Israel for committing genocide. I will take the opinion of independant experts over the views of a poster running cover for a state comitting genocide. With this in mind You might explain why the IDF when asked to comment about the destruction of 86 percent of Agricultural land in Gaza made no reply.

By the way there is no legal concept for all out war. We would see your full hypocrisy on display if a state defended committing crimes against humanity against Israelis on the basis that it was an all out war. Your assertion that the war would be over if Hamas lay down its weapons is not convincing given Israel has killed 103 people since the ceasefire in Lebanon. Also given the expressed intent of far right ministers to expel Palestinians from Gaza

Did you forget to quote the post you were referencing? Because I'd like to see what you're using as evidence for this.

Who would have thought Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson were radical lefties….

The IRA blew up emptied buildings to terrorise people. That was terrorism.

I kind of get what your are saying , but I am not sure that is a valid metric.

Palestine action are a terrorist group in the UK, to my knowledge have shown zero intent to kill.

Why would have to ask her parents if she is being genuine? She is 22 yrs old now.

Unless there is credible evidence that she has no interest in environmentalism then the poster was spewing unfounded hatred of her.

When someone's so called "argument" comes down to "tHe lEfT" you know they've really run out of road.

no.
she does not want to have to put up with the abuse and threats from the far right and genocide supporters who have no actual argument against what she said, and who want to play the victim.
it's her page so she can say what she wants as long as it's not a breach of the law, and she can decide who can and can't post and comment on her page.

2026 Eurovision could become genocide free

Chancellor Friedrich Merz says Germany will not take part in next year’s Eurovision Song Contest if Israel is banned from competing.

Merz said he would “support” withdrawing from the contest should Israel be excluded.

“I think it’s a scandal that this is even being discussed,” he said. “Israel has a place there.”