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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    By carrying out a genocide, is the world's only Jewish state not providing people with a stick to beat them with?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    The gas thing is - I never claimed in any post the 800 killed numbers were correct, I referenced the post showing the numbers and said "if that post is to be believed..."

    Prior days on that site are in line with media reports. I severely hope it is wrong today.

    Now this sheep poster is, again, dodging reality, and continuing to lie and slander, same as all his buddies.

    There are no excuses anymore to deny this. Support of Israeli conduct in this war is to support genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I see your credibility score unsurprisingly remains at zero.

    You seem to post misinformation in a scattergun approach in the vain hope that something lands. And pretty much all you post is easily discredited and debunked.

    I'd have thought the penny would have dropped a long time ago. Clearly not.

    It really isn't a good thing to read posts that are cringeworthy embarrassing. I really am scarlet for ye.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    It is genocide. It is virtually unanimously declared. The question is- why do you only defend it when Israel do it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    The antisemitism has been on full display for everyone to see since the Trump Peace Plan was first rolled out. The mask didn't so much drop as pick up a cane and monocle and do a tapdance.

    For anyone who gave a singular crap about the Palestinian people the potential end of the war should have been something to celebrate. Instead a horde of posters just logged on to express their outrage that poor Hamas were being forced to agree to a proposal that they hadn't been party to drafting, and lauch attack after attack on Israel.

    Very similar as to how all the people who aren't antisemitic and don't support Hamas all turned up on the Iranian thread declaring in their collective wisdom that that bunch of head-the-balls in Tehran getting a nuclear bomb would just be great for the whole region.

    People can read between the lines.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,762 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    As i suspected, they are all antisemitic because you cant't admit the truth that you are running cover for a state comitting genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    As somebody who remembers the campaign against Indonesia in East Timor, the campaign against Apartheid, the on-going campaign against Indonesia in West Papua, I'd say you're viewing the world through Israeli tinted lenses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,475 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Do you think Bibi ordered the Gardai to spray the louts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I think he ordered Starmer to arrest 80 and 90 year old pensioners, retired army officers, a blind man in a wheelchair and loads of concerned people protesting Genocide in London. I really don't believe he has the same control in Dublin though although Shatter did his best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    Did you ever actually pause to check who is actually on that flotilla?

    I can almost guaranteee that there isn't a single one of them that isn't picking up a Hamas, Hezbollah, or Iranian regime paycheck in some form or other.

    Did you ever wonder why not one of them including Greta endorsed the Peace Plan?

    It's all about Israel. Always.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,475 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    So do you think Starmer ordered the Gardai to do it?

    Or are you just ignoring the Irish louts behaviour by bringing in the UK?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    Nobody? Really? The Left haven't been chanting "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free" for decades? Calls for the destruction of Israel have not been happening since the start? There was no institutional hostility to Israel before their response to the 7/Oct/23 attacks?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    It isn't even declared by the UN for gods sake, despite your assertions that it is unamiously declared.

    There are thousands of organisation that haven't declared it as a genocide.

    The ICJ has passed no verdict.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I have no problem with louts anywhere being sprayed regardless of where they're from as I am a pacifist. I have a problem with people who are not causing any problems and genuinely protesting a genocide being arrested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I am talking about the posters here on Boards. Thought you knew that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,762 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I see you are cherrypicking what parts of a post to reply to again. Are you really in any position to suggest anyone else has a biased opinion given the lies you have told on here to defend Israel?

    UN Watch, according to b- tselem and investigastive journalists, have intentionally skewed data in the past to defend Israel against allegations of human rights abuses. I assume you not being biased have a problem with that.

    The UN Report has only been questioned by a known pro Israeli advocay group. If the report was flawed in its conclusion it would have been discredited widely by others genocide experts,but it hasn't.

    As regards the ratio of civilian casualties to Hamas members killed, an IDF solider unintentionally admitted that there was 90,000 civilians killed in Gaza- far more than than the Hamas ministry stated. Isn't it curious that Israeli mouth pieces state at times they know how many Hamas members they have killed but other times they claim not to know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    How many of them got the people of Ireland so exercised? South Africa had a few marches. That was it.

    How about the Rohingya genocide. That was recent enough. Where was the fulminating Irish outrage then?

    How about the Sudan right now?

    How about Irish left-wing loonies like Mick Wallace and Clare Daly ranting about Israel, but attending marches in Yemen with thr Houthi rebels, the same people who are responsible for a civil war that is estimated to have cost 85,000 children their lives through starvation.

    I suppose, though, 85,000 dead children through starvation can be tolerated as long as they are firing rockets at the one small Jewish state in the world.

    Where was the Irish outrage about those 85,000 kids?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    So we are not to question Israel's genocide at all and we should concentrate on other events worldwide?. Just not Israel's genocide. Message received but not understood lads.

    Genocide should always be called out …… regardless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Hamas's official response to the mediators as posted by Trump. Over to you Bibi !

    hamas.jpg

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    You can repeat the accusation as much as you want. The simple reality is that all of those deaths are the unfortunate result of a terrible war, instigated by Palestinians via Hamas, and prolonged unnecessarialy by Palestinians via Hamas.

    Again. It just seems to matter so much to posters that it is declared a genocide. Does that stop the war? Does it bring anyone back to life? No, but it allows people to log on and rant about Israel again, which seems to be the real objective.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,762 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    So just more slander and lies from you against people protesting a rogue regime. I do wonder why apologists for rogue states always have to engage in slander and lies against their critics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    What IDF soldier declared 90,000 dead? And how would his records be more up to date than Hamas which reports considerably less?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Again, the three tier defence.

    "South Africa had a few marches"

    There really is no hope for some. I'd prefer to think this was a windup rather than a serious remark.

    Sudan is under sanctions. Yemen is under sanctions. Myanamar is under sanctions. What sanctions are the Israeli state under?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I doubt the Gardai would take any direction from an alleged War Criminal (at large).

    I suspect your question, as usual, is just your normal posting style - nothing of any substance to add to the discourse just typically snarky posts with the usual stupid type of question designed to provoke.

    A case of whatever turns you on I guess. Sad really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,762 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I will repeat it because it's true. The IDF for years have murdered civilians and never be held to account for it.

    I shouldn't be surprised since they were formed by members of terrorists groups . It's in their dna to engage in terrorism.

    It's important states who commit genocide are held to account. I understand why you would not be keen for that to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    Genocide should be called out, but so should antisemitism.

    When you have a collection of people who are only focused on one particular conflict it is perfectly reasonable to wonder if their interest is stoked through purely humitarian interests or is what we are witnessing a clear show of antisemitism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I sincerely hope those on the flotilla aren't reading your post. I'd encourage you to publicly retract that, or get lawyered up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,475 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    So no comment as usual on the louts. But yet again you start with sexual talk about turn ons. Makes sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    One of the Irish members of the flotilla was posting on OCT 7th that the rape of jewish women by Hamas fighters was understandable.

    Proud of him are you?

    Tiago whatever his name is was flown to Beruit ot attend the funeral of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.

    Lovely fellows. But sure, I'm slandering them. You haven't a clue what you're talking about here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Correct - the ICJ hasn't.

    But they did state that the SA case was plausible and they listed provisional measures Israel were required to implement - twice. Israel ignored both directions. And that was before the mass starvation tactics that led to a declared famine in Gaza.

    Israel also stuck two fingers up to the ICJ as regards the finding on the illegal occupation of Palestinian land. Israel has ignored the requirement for them to leave and pay reparations.

    But sure, not too long to wait for the ICJ to decide - and the evidence against Israel has been stacking up in volumes in the last year.



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