Northern Ireland 2125?

That the one where he demonstrates that he doesn't know the difference between prescribed and proscribed? Given his associates and their penchant for pharmaceuticals, it's an amusing slip.

Yep. Hard work to get through what was basically a plea to pay loyalist paramilitaries to do what they should have done many years ago - transition.

They do not make conservative leaders of the same calibre as Mrs Thatcher nowadays. She would not have made a mistake like that. Still everyone is human. Our health minister not many years ago made a gaffe too

Goes to prove my point, we would have a better calible of unionist and conservative politician if the military wing of the party you support did not murder such politicians as Edgar Graham, Bradford, etc etc. And leave their wives in wheelchairs / seriously injured like Norman Tebbits wife. Who would want to enter politics after that? And it continues with Kneecap urging their followers to kill Toy MPs.

If the party you support did something, you should not complain about the consequences.

You obviously think Thatcher was harsh on Unionists, threw them "under a bus" according to you, but I think she was fair enough and done her best in the circumstances. The British government over the years gave billions to both sides in N.I., plus risked their own lives. Think they cared a lot more about BOTH sides than the Irish government sometimes did (think Arms trial, lack of extradition etc).

You say Thatcher threw Unionists under a bus : is your theory that she was a closet Irish nationalist and could have ended the troubles in N.I. quickly by taking out the Republic leadership ( they knew who they were )? Would you have prefered if Thatcher did not "throw Unionists under a bus", according to your theory? Never knew you were that concerned about the wellbeing of unionists? And your theory is she was so harsh on unionists then she was too soft on Republicans. Who would have known. 🤣

Funny, I always thought that Republicans gripe with Thatcher was that she was hard on Republicans / stood up to Republicans? And that is why Republicans tried to murder her and her husband and other civilians etc? Next time I hear republicans singing Maggie in a box I must try to remember FrancieBrady's unique take on her.

You never thought that one through, did you. You have been caught out again, you cannot have it both ways.

Nothing new or interesting in those state papers. The Irish government minister Lenihan noted that the British said "The destiny of the people of Northern Ireland" was up to the people in N. Ireland, and stuff like that. The British would not stand in the way of Irish unification if the people of N. Ireland wanted that. We all knew that. That is why the British held a border poll in 1973. The British got out of every country around the world they were not wanted in, and left with a better record than the French in Algeria, the Belgiums in Congo etc.

Interesting you think Maggie was on nationalists side in shafting the unionists one minute and was next minute was colluding with them, and then was pushing them under the bus. lol. Will you ever make up your mind?

Was she pushing the unionists under a bus when she sought the extradition of over 100 pIRA / INLA which the Irish government refused to extradite? Who was pushing who "under the bus", when the pIRA was engaged in (as many saw it, especially in border counties like Fermanagh) a campaign of ethnic cleansing against protestants? Something like 90% of the killings in Fermanagh were by republicans? And some of the balance of the 10% were self defence etc?

You have not answered, who was pushing who under a bus? Was Thatcher pushing the unionists under a bus when she sought the extradition of over 100 pIRA / INLA which the Irish government refused to extradite? Who was pushing who "under the bus", when the pIRA was engaged in (as many saw it, especially in border counties like Fermanagh) a campaign of ethnic cleansing against protestants? Something like 90% of the killings in Fermanagh were by republicans? And some of the balance of the 10% were self defence etc?

One minute you think Maggie was on nationalists side in shafting the unionists, and "pushing them under a bus," and next minute was colluding with them. Will you ever make your mind up: which was it?

Are you going to tell your fellow republicans they are wrong to be singing "Maggies in a box" and instead should be thanking them for pushing the unionists (you think) under a bus?

I asked you already: given that one minute you think Thatcher and the British were on nationalists side in shafting the unionists, and "pushing them under a bus," and next minute you think the British were colluding with them. Will you ever make your mind up: which was it?

Would you not be of the opinion the Irish government pushed the unionists much more under a bus than the British did because of Irish govt collusion with gunmen (remember the Arms trial in Dublin), lack of extradition etc?

The Irish make up part of the Union Jack, which after all is the British flag. You claim the British do not care about those parts of its flag equally? I still think, and facts show, the Protestants / Unionists in N.I. get a better deal, and more respect, being part of the UK, than they would get from republicans in Ireland. Here the orange is part of out flag, but we saw a few weeks ago the bitterness and hundreds of negative comments on social media towards HH when she was forced to admit her husband was once "Orange". At least the British are not sectarian. And they tried to extradite pIRA paramilitaries from Ireland during the troubles : the Irish government mostly refused. So we can see who Unionist's friends were.

Incidentally, if there was a U.I., I guess the Union Jack would have to change too, as it would no longer be appropriate to have - we would no longer be entitled to have - the Saint Patricks Saltire on it.

Even though it contains the Saint Patricks Saltire on it?

And you do not really care about those in N. Ireland who show allegiance to it either: I thought seeing as you earlier on board.ie advocated paying those who wanted to leave N.I. in the event of a U.I., you would have a guess at what our flag and our neighbours flag would look like.

At least you do not dispute the fact that the Protestants / Unionists in N.I. get a better deal, and more respect, from the British being part of the UK, than they would get from republicans in Ireland now and in the event of a U.I. The sectarianism displayed by some towards HH because of her family background was enough demonstration of that.

n.b. Did you ever find out why she is at pains to plead she is a "proud republican" (please stop attacking her), and if she had any comment on the Presbyterian church and buildings firebombed in her locality as recently as 1999? Did she dare condemn those attacks? If she describes herself as "a proud republican", where does she stand on the murder of the other protestant FG politician in Co. Monaghan, Billy Fox, who was killed by other "proud republicans" during the troubles, and his girlfriends house burned down, after first burning the bible in front of the terrified occupants of the house, so it really was a sectarian attack? Why is she afraid to say anything about that?

So you would'nt mind in a U.I. if the flag of Ireland was an orange flag with a picture of King Billy on it, and our anthem was the same as GFTK but with a few words changed?

I'd say you would give a hoot about it then quickly enough. Or if someone flew a Union Jack south of the border, or put it on a sign, you you would care about it quite quickly?

Funny how you do not care about anthems but yet you are so defensive about people chanting uh ah Up the Ra. Which I suppose you could say is a sort of an anthem almost among some people.

And as far as flags go, I'd say many unionists / loyalists look on the Irish language going up on signs in their areas in Belfast as alien to them as if someone put tricolours up on their signs, because they associate the Irish flags with Republicanism now thanks to Kneecap and their slogan "every word of irish is a bullet for Irish freedom etc". If flags are not important to republicans, why does the man in Kneecap wear a tricolour balaclava?

I would like to see flags and other things used to taunt banned

If you're happy to play for NI and dont care being called northern irish orirish and are open to the idea of a UI are you part of the OWC? Is the OWC just a synonym for NI or do you actually have to have to have a preference regarding a border poll to be part if the bp.

And what do you mean by " trying to keep it all for themselves". From your previous posts i thought you had the problem with sharing things like our natinal patron saint.

We're plenty happy to share it with you, Downcow. You just dont want a bit of us about the place. When you talk about, 'Our' wee country, you're only thinking of sashes, marching, blood and thunder bands, the NI soccer team.....the GAA, the Irish Language, Irish tradition music and anything else from my culture don't feature in YOUR wee country.

A democratic vote is not 'forcing' anything on anyone.