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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭almostover


    No falsehoods in my post on this matter.

    One of the guns in question was previously used in a murder.

    Enjoy your night cap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭almostover


    OK, posting out that there's a problem with the candidate slection but not proposing an alternative isn't very helpful.

    As for the Billy Kelleher thing, that's an internal FF matter. If you wanted him to run you'd have been better served joining FF and lobbying fellow members for his nomination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Exactly. There is precisely nothing that excuses, or explains away or ''adds context'' or adds ''balance'' to those killings. They are simply unjustifiable. No buts. Full stop. She wasn't going to get my vote in any case, but after this disgraceful performance she deserves a minus vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭corkie


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    How your own opinions align with various candidates. I quickly went through the various questions quickly so probably not an accurate reflection for me! More interesting is to look at what the candidates selected for the questions when you have completed.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/elections-2024/votesmart/votesmart-take-our-election-test-to-find-out-which-presidential-candidate-align-with-your-views/a1537193874.html

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Catherine Connolly knowingly put her reputation on the line to give a second chance to a woman with a record. She took that responsibility on herself, and has not been proven wrong.

    She's by far the most genuine, person-centric person on this campaign.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭corkie


    @almostover OK, posting out that there's a problem with the candidate selection but not proposing an alternative isn't very helpful.

    What can I say to that, politics is not a main interest of mine, also head like a sieve for names, so only spark interest in it when there is elections or laws/regulations been introduced that I have knowledge of. Even when I first heard of 'Maria Steen' been in discussions for it, I thought incorrectly it was a inside joke between posters.

    What is wrong with wanting a few more options on the ballot and then researching who/what they stand for and then making an informed choice?

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I totally agree with the satirical Waterford Whispers when it says, "Russians guilty until proven guilty". It is not innocent until proven guilty anymore. We have moved on and it is guilty until proven guilty but typical Ireland and typical Tadhg an dá thaobh - we want it both ways. We do not really want to annoy Russia too much, so we do not pick the ambassador, rather we pick somebody less important, and on the basis of evidence over which we cannot stand. The Dáil has given out about the likes of Boris Johnson with regard to Brexit, yet on this issue he is to be trusted and suddenly we choose to believe him. This all comes on top of an article that I resented having to read today, "Ireland and the EU: Defending our common European home", a Fine Gael MEP discussion paper. I felt sickened and I resented having to read this document by four Fine Gael MEPs, two of whom are women. I am appalled because they should be a force for peace. They should show leadership but instead they tell us that we are using "outdated language" around Ireland's neutrality. There are 15 pages in this revolting document and it is well worth looking at if one could perhaps take medication first. I was certainly disturbed by it.

    Yeah, this makes her look much better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Bringing someone into Government buildings who's just out of prison for a firearms conviction without Garda clearance seems irresponsible in the extreme. Worked out on this occasion fortunately,but not something that should be happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭DFGrange


    Catherine Connolly has support along political lines from left leaning voters, some SF voters and 'anyone but the gubberment' types but she's toxic to everyone else in a way Micheal D Higgins never was. She's a terrible selection as candidate and shows how little the office of President is really worth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    I have ABsOLUTLY no problem with the principal of rehabilitation of anyone and especially those that might find it very hard to get back into normal society or get a job after having spent some time in prison.

    But would you hire someone who has a number of convictions for robbing banks at gunpoint as a cashier in your company? You might find other positions in the company that has nothing to do with cash or aspects around cash to help rehab individual

    OR

    Should an individual who is a known child molestor /paedofile and spent time in prison as a result get a job of carrying children in a bus, caretaker of a swimming pool ?

    Or

    Would you hire an individual who now has a full driving licence and no penalty points to drive a truck But got jailed for a number of dangerous /reckless driving incidences where people were killed as a result . You might hire her/him to drive a fork lift around the yard ok but not to drive a truck on a public road to help in the rehab of the individual.

    So the individual that C. connelly hired , I assume, was in a unique position to observe how the ‘ ARMS of GOVERNMENT’ work and then the decision to be made as to what to do with that , if any.

    As the OLD SAYING goes ‘ A Leopard Does N or Change It’s Spots’



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Important to get the point across particularly to young voters that might consider themselves constitutional Republicans, that Eirgi is opposed to the Good Friday Agreement. To allow someone opposed to the GFA and has gun convictions to get a job in Dail Eireann is the height of naivety at best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭BQQ


    A bit of perspective wouldn’t go astray here

    CC ‘s lapse in judgement was giving someone who’d paid their debt to society a second chance
    and what happened? She was there for 6 months and the sky didn’t fall. She just did her job and went home


    compare that with heather humphreys

    She had a lapse in judgment where she helped someone avoid paying any debt to society for a horrific case of animal abuse

    A shocking abuse of power

    Why is nobody talking about that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You can't see the irresponsibility and danger of hiring someone with a gun conviction?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Catherine Connolly knowingly put her reputation on the line to give a second chance to a woman with a record”

    So she’s now some sort of career martyr 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    While I’m tired or maybe bored is the better word. of all this discussion on CC- you raise an important point.
    I know someone in their 40s- a very busy working mother - she mentioned that she might vote for “that candidate CC as she seems good” -she would be typically a Labour voter.

    I asked her to go off and do her own research and come back to me- she was shocked to say the least and will not be voting CC- however given that experience I’m not convinced that most voters will do much research into any of the candidates they end up voting for - it’s very possible people will blindly vote mainly on party lines- simply because none of the candidates are anyways inspiring as a president.

    CC is not a typical Labour candidate like Dick Spring would be or Pat Rabbitte - she’s extremely divisive - and that’s before you even try to get to know her- talking about Gaza and armed criminals for the next two weeks won’t get her into phoenix park, that’s for sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,280 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Indeed, a dangerous type of person to have in the Arus, in my humble opinion, given her past leanings .



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Once more you're displaying ignorance regarding a Dáil debate you've not seen nor read. She was replying to a TD who was stating that Ireland should increases its arms purchases and align with NATO. Not Connolly who introduced NATO to the conversation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I wonder will this story take on legs? Will the former tenant come on record and be interviewed? Let’s see how it pans out.

    “The north inner-city apartment has since been occupied by a number of tenants, including a couple who rented the property from 2007 to 2009. The tenant was paying his rent by standing orders from his current and savings account each month. The couple were saving for a house themselves, hence the second bank account.When the tenants moved out in May 2009, the standing order from the current account was cancelled.

    But a banking error resulted in rent continuing to be paid into Gavin’s account by a standing order from the savings account for six months until November 2009. When the error was spotted, the tenant sought to get a refund of the inadvertently paid rent. Finding it difficult to get hold of Gavin, the tenant persisted by phone, email and personal contact.“When I moved out of your apartment, due to a mix up with the bank, rent continued to be paid into your account by a standing order from a saving account I have with AIB,” he wrote in December 2009. “After I moved out of the apartment at the beginning of May, a total of €550 continued to be paid into your account until November when I realised the error. This means I paid you a total of €3,300 in error.”The tenant asked Gavin to acknowledge the mistake and refund him the money. “I would like you to contact me by phone or in writing to arrange for this money to be repaid to me,” he said. “I am writing to you in work because I have been unable to reach you by phone, despite repeated attempts.

    Your home address was never included on the original lease, so I was not able to write to you at your home address.“I also asked the bank to contact you by phone, but you did not respond to them.”The tenant claimed that, when he did not get a response, he went to Gavin’s parents’ house to seek to contact him. He got a mobile number for his former landlord. He also contacted the Residential Tenancies Board to try and get Gavin’s home address from them, but they had no record of the tenancy.The tenant says that, when he got Gavin on the phone, he was told the money would be refunded, but this never happened. He also says maintenance of the property was slow to happen, and he got the impression that Gavin was stretched financially.Gavin says he does not remember any issue over a rent refund.

    “In relation to the tenant, he does not have any recollection or records of any such dispute, and they have reviewed all the records they have from 16 years ago,” a statement says.“

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/jim-gavin-the-celtic-tiger-apartment-he-lost-in-the-crash-and-a-rent-refund-dispute/a841490522.html



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyone stating that Ursula Ní Shionnain has a conviction for a terrorist charge is open to action for defamation as it is demonstrably untrue. The site itself would also be liable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Well is this confirmed independently? Otherwise its he said/she said.

    I have had a situation many years ago where a direct debit was still being paid from my account after I cancelled. Its possible this is an error by the bank, or a technical glitch.

    Still, I am learning towards voting HH right now.

    We don't exactly have great choices in this election. I wouldn't be surprised if the turnout is low.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A murder the Gardai stated was not connected to them, as per the court reports. But thanks for the insinuation. You getting ever more desperate?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,847 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Seems pretty small beer? Anyway Gavin is already very much the outsider so media wouldn't be too pushed to chase down every bit of controversy about him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭jmcc


    If it sells copies and advertising, they will.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Westernview


    A lot of people might veer towards HH now but I don't like the idea that her low key,low energy campaign would be rewarded. I don't get any sense of great passion for the job from her.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yep it does. Advocating for peace rather than an arms build up by the EU is a position agreed with by close to 70% of the population judging by consistent recent polling.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A Leopard Does N or Change It’s Spots

    And yet, Ursula Ní Shionnain has been contributing greatly to society without issue for seven years. Unless you have something that says otherwise?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭combat14


    terrible choice of candidates this time out

    many people will spoil their vote

    the rest may vote for the dire CC to thank the government for more taxes and wastage this budget



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ursula Ní Shionnain had left the organisation before working for CC.

    And there is no candidate for the Áras not supportive of the GFA.



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