EU Chat Control being pushed again

By introducing an obligation for providers to detect, report, block and remove child sexual abuse material from their services, the proposal enables improved detection, investigation and prosecution of offences under the Child Sexual Abuse Directive. The proposed legislation complements the new European Strategy for a Better Internet for Children 14 , which aims to create safe digital experiences for children and to promote digital empowerment. 

So you think everyone should be free to distribute child pornography?

Funny how your post goes off on a weird capitalist Israeli tangent but doesn't mention at all that this is a regulation laying down rules to prevent and combat child sexual abuse - that's the actual title of the discussion document. It's almost as if your reposting sh1te you've heard elsewhere but haven't bothered to actually read the proposal yourself.

I laughed but still a bit selective, the EU could also have civil liberties, democratic power, human rights, quality of life, food regulations, social safety net

Oireachtas Justice Committee expressing concerns. Also Irish Council for Civil Liberties opposed.

The problem with this bill is that it doesn't limit itself to combatting child abuse material. I would support this law if that's all it was doing.

The bill also allows new crimes to be added in the future. Who knows what they will be? Maybe going on a Gaza protest? Maybe being a political dissident? I read that things that aren't even illegal could be added in future.

What the bill proposed is that ALL messages be screened, regardless of whether or not they have CSAR material. It does not require innocent communications to be destroyed to protect privacy. This is Big Brother. It will lead to law abiding citizens having their private Communications read by the State. This will open the door to political persecution of dissidents, in countries like Hungary. It could lead to the spread of authoritarianism in the West.

Imagine how Cromwell, Hitler and Stalin would have used these powers.

This is about allowing politicians to read all your emails, listen to all your phone calls. Surely this goes far beyond what is necessary? This is the death of privacy.

Also, who will have custody of the stored personal data? Will they be allowed to sell it to advertisers, insurance companies etc.? What is the real agenda?

In societies that are homophobic, this law could lead to people being outed. If a political or business rival is having an affair, this could be used to blackmail them, like J Edgar Hoover's FBI tried to do to Martin Luther King.

I propose the bill be changed as follows:

- Messages with no illegal content should not be retained by the authorities.

- Surveillance should require a warrant, approved by a judge.

The German Justice Ministry has criticised the proposal for intrusion on privacy of law abiding citizens.

Snowden's PRISM revelations seem to suggest vast amounts of data is being hoovered up indiscriminately already

This is going to be very bad for undercover journalists in countries like Hungary. We already know that Israel's Pegasus software was used to spy on journalists. If they can't use end-to-end encryption, sources will be afraid to come forward.

I have read some of the directive. There is some difference between the European Parliaments preferred version and the Council version. The EP version has some safeguards including protecting end to end encryption, and judicial oversight. The EP doesnt have the power to initiate legislation, but they can block this and amendment it under the co-decision procedure.

The directive seems to exclude judges for oversight. It creates a body called the "EU Centre" and it will decide.

It's nice to see people who disagree with each other on this matter. One major red flag for me is the fact that politicians are specifically exempted from this. Shameless, totally shameless.

The outsourcing is particularly terrifying. Honestly just very murky territory and pretty much anyone with any technological competence will work out ways to bypass such things.

Friends of the governing party of course. Oracle CEO and Tony Blair are quite close. The UK left the EU and both the Tories and Reform UK want out of the ECHR to boot so those pesky human rights will be much less of an issue going forward.

I was wondering alright, that's more related to the Digital IDs though -

Starmer justified the new identity scheme, which his government had ruled out a year ago when it was proposed by former prime minister Tony Blair's institute, as part of tackling unauthorized immigration.

Those pesky human rights though are definitely going to be much less of an issue going forward if Starmer's plans to reform the NHS are anything to go by with the introduction of 'digital hospitals' on the NHS app (much more likely to be outsourced to Oracle directly than a third-party services provider providing support for Oracle products and services) -

The government will make the single patient record possible through new legislation that places a duty on every health and care provider to make the information they record about a patient available in the single patient record. 

We will also legislate to give patients access to their record by default. From 2028, patients will be able to view it securely on the NHS App. Over time, that data will include not only medical records, but a personalised account of health risk, drawing from lifestyle, demographic and genomic data - helping catch problems early before they develop, and prevent people from poor health.

A My Health tool will include real-time data from wearables, biometric sensors or smart devices and will connect to relevant NHS data too - whether that is the results of recent tests at home or in a neighbourhood health centre. Wearables will be able to feed vital data into the app such as step count, heart rate and sleep quality, to provide tailored, personal health advice. The single patient record will have robust security controls.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/managing-healthcare-easy-as-online-banking-with-revamped-nhs-app

It's as though it were life imitating art -

The Doctor quickly learns that this hospital is run in a strict manner by a computer called the Allocator, which regulates doses of medicine to patients based on a Treatment Coefficient (TC) value assigned each patient. He is told that TC is based on a complex formula that reflects the patient's perceived value to society, rather than medical need.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Care_%28Star_Trek%3A_Voyager%29

The real fun of course will start when legislation is passed to allow US-owned companies to send the personal data of millions of users in the UK back to their parent companies in the US -

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/23/oracle_gets_to_store_us/

Germany Joined the opposition on October 14th. Next meeting to discuss it is in December.

The Danish presidency is now proposing that governments can continue end to end encryption for their own communications.

Cyprus will hold the EU rotating presidency after that. They support Chat Control.

Its a great way for those at the top to garner information that enables them to see who is a threat to anything or anyone in their governing/business/military system.

That's going to cheer up those wannabe Stasi that seem to permeate the Irish media. The problem for the EC is that there is a big difference between executing and implementing such a scheme and merely waffling about it.

There is very little hope when we have clapping seals like this utter cretin.

But im protecting the kids!!! Useful **** idiots.

https://x.com/ReginaDo/status/1994036217608908968