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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    It seems CC could be a "good republican", hence the SF support. Not surprised to see the SF cohort back her to the hilt, but if it were one of the other candidates, ....................? Ah lads, come on, she's a desperately compromised candidate in so many ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭1641


    I wonder were the guns produced by the German "military industrial complex"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,694 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Why is there a big red zone around Blanch?

    You'd expect a professional drone operator to know what they are at, regardless.

    Maybe FF 'employed' the 16 year old kid of some staffer?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,694 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    In fairness to Connolly if anyone is involved in the Irish language at all (irregardless of party political affiliations/or not) you become acquainted with Republican’s of various shades. As the Irish language is one of the main planks of Republicanism. It does not surprise me in the slightest.

    Yeah that's one of the most unappealing aspects of the Irish language movement

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,155 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I wouldn’t say Connolly dangerous. I like to suss out all three candidates. And I think I have all three fairly well sussed at this point

    Connolly is an “easily led”.idealistic. Like that pupil in school who can be led astray by less well intentioned classmates. The trip to Syria was far more concerning for me. Where she was getting shown around by Assad supporter Fares Al-Shehabi.

    As I said earlier anyone involved in the Irish language can easily become acquainted with Republicans of different shades regardless of their own political affiliations or otherwise. Ex-Eirigi individual looking for a job in admin involved in the Irish language sphere— no surprise there.

    That is just a fact of life when involving or associating in any Irish language environment. As the promotion of the Irish language is a main tenet of Republicanism.

    Remember, Connolly was recently on record in responding to whether she supported the violence of the Provisional IRA - “I think violence is never justified, and I say that from a position as a mother and a pacifist.”

    I don’t find it shocking at all that Connolly came into acquaintance with Republicans of all shades given her interest in the Irish language. That does not mean she supports them.

    However, I believe that a cohort of Republicans in SF for example- view Connolly as “useful”. As she is a much more palatable choice for the ROI than any of the more “experienced” SF politicians. As Connolly has no links to the troubles. Is female and is from “the south” as they would term it.

    I can see why the ex eirgi member story could make people who have never been involved in Irish language circles jumpy.

    But such people are nearly as naive as Connolly is ar times if they are shocked by that.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Well it does raise questions about CC's judgement in that four years after someone was convicted of a serious arms offense acting apparently as part of a conspiracy to illegally obtain arms that she chose to employ that person as an Oireachtas aide.

    "The presidential candidate sought to hire Ursula Ní Shionnáin as an administrative support when she was on the Oireachtas committee for the Irish language in 2018.

    Ní Shionnáin was sentenced to six years in jail in 2014 after being found guilty by the Special Criminal Court of unlawful possession of firearms and possession of ammunition. The trial heard how she and three others had been wearing wigs and disguises when they were arrested by armed gardaí outside the home of a firearms dealer on 27 November 2012."

    Gardaí stopped Catherine Connolly from hiring woman convicted of gun crime

    It's just not credible that she was unaware of this person's recent history in 2018.

    At best it suggests extreme naivety.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,887 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    This Jim Gavin campaign isn't really going well is it? It's almost as if a non-politician isn't good at being a politician...

    https://archive.is/BCNYw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭1641


    She seems fond of certain types of company. Maybe it is just "naivety" or maybe it is ideology, or both. But either way she is unfit for the presidency.

    The Irish tour group was also shown around Aleppo by the pro-Assad commentator Fares Al-Shehabi, who was described as the head of the city’s chamber of commerce.

    Al-Shehabi, who appears in photos with Connolly, had been put under sanctions by the EU for supporting the Assad regime. The year before the Irish delegation’s visit, he posted on social media that a seven-year-old who said Assad was committing a Holocaust should die. He would later go on to say that anti-Assad journalists should be raped.

    Speaking in the Dáil the week after the trip, Daly called for the government to issue a visa to Al-Shehabi “so that he might come to Ireland as a businessman and Sunni Muslim who believes in secular values and talk about what has happened in Syria”.

    A spokesperson for Connolly said that the tour and its itinerary were arranged by a travel agency that had been active in Syria for decades. Meeting with Al-Shehabi was “not an endorsement”, a spokesperson said, and Connolly “wasn’t entirely aware of who he was” at the time. 

    FactFind: What do we know about Catherine Connolly's visit to Syria in 2018?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭rdser


    You reap what you sow. Not a president, hopefully never will be. I have no idea what Mehole was at parachuting this lad in to be the FF candidate.



  • Administrators Posts: 55,643 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Honestly think just avoiding mistakes is a viable election strategy for Heather Humphreys at this stage. She just needs to come across as the safe pair of hands who won't say or do anything stupid.

    Gavin has not hit the ground running at all, he is very underwhelming, and Connolly is showing why she is going to struggle to attract centrist voters.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,410 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is a bit tragic. If anyone wants a good example of how to run a decent online campaign, the Labour 2018 one was quite good. (I'm not exactly a fan of Labour but credit where credit is due.)

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    There's a touch of Maureen O'Sullivan (former independent TD) about Catherine Connolly.

    "In December 2015, Maureen O'Sullivan and fellow independent TDs Clare Daly and Mick Wallace each put forward offers of a €5,000 surety for a 23-year-old man being prosecuted under terrorism legislation in the Special Criminal Court in Dublin charged with membership of an illegal dissident republican terrorist organisation."

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    Maureen O'Sullivan (politician) - Wikipedia

    The person, 25 year old Donal O Coisdealbha, was subsequently sentenced to five years.

    Dissident republican jailed on explosive charges in run-up to Prince Charles' visit - BBC News



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Connolly being about the controversy from thejournal article now on Newstalk.

    She is arguing the attempted appointee was rehabilitated in prison.

    Says "I believe in rehabilitation".

    She said shes "proud".

    She says she voted against the Special Criminal Court. The SCC convicted the applicant on gun offenses for 6 years.

    Connolly Just admitted she wants the SCC abolished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Seems the Journal got the Garda vetting info wrong according to Connolly on Clare Byrne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,694 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    As Connolly has no links to the troubles.

    She does now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    😁 Just admitted?

    She has always wanted to see it abolished and reformed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,694 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Opportunity for Humphreys and Gavin if they dont blow it, to make an issue of CCs views on the .SCC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,049 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Most Labour voters, it seems won't be voting for her anyway. And yes, more middle-of-the-road left-wing voters from the more leafy suburbs of Dublin and Cork won't be touching her either.

    Eirigi are nutjobs, but I'm sure she has a correct explanation here!!

    This all points to bad judgement and decision making.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Yea i would agree with that to a certain extent.

    As it stands i would say CC will definitely get the most first preferences. And unless the election takes a radical turn, i cannot see Jim Gavin surviving into the second count. So he will be eliminated. The question will then be about transfers from JG going to HH. Will there be enough to push her on front? There will only be two counts this time around so. Of course that assumes CC doesnt win outright, but i cannot see that happening.

    Gavin really had the most to gain from the first debate. Despite being a popular man for his sporting achievments, he was a dark horse going into the first debate. I think more than a few people were especting him to surprise us, and come out swinging with assuredness, confidence, and energy. I heard a few FF-ers i know claim that there had to be a reason for Martin to back him. And perhaps he had really impressed behind closed doors. Its easy to look back at this with 20-20 hindsight and find it laughable, but in many respects i get it. Martin stacked the FF deck on Gavin, so FF supporters put their faith in that, and were expecting him to hit the ground with speed.

    The exact opposite happened, and barring a complete turn-around, id say he comes last. Will he get enough 1st prefs for his redistribution to ACTUALLY MATTER? This, for me, is a really interesting question. Hypothetically lets assume CC wins, with HH coming in second; what if JG polls so low that he is unable to alter the outcome?

    Its with this in mind, that leads me to believe HH goes after CC in the subsequent debate(s). And really she should ignore JG entirely, regardless of what he does or says.

    Im not going to return to yesterdays 'story' - iv said my piece on it, and barring more revelations, im just leaving it aside.

    The above however, is precisely the thing to discuss in relation to CC's judgement. This fits in with the radical left path, which is well trodden by Clare Daily et al. And yes it strikes at the heart of CC's judgement and credibility. And its not unexpected at all, given her radical views on global affairs.

    From the article

    A spokesperson said Connolly has had no contact with the Assad regime..

    [later in the article]

    Photos published on Syrian social media accounts show Daly and Wallace being shown around the Yarmouk refugee camp by men dressed in military fatigues.

    A spokesperson for Connolly said that these were members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GP), which fought on the side of Assad during the civil war. The PFLP is now, and was in 2018, designated a terrorist organisation by the EU.

    Im not sure if it was the same spokesperson but - is he/she aware that the above statements are more or less mutually exclusive? In the normal run of things i would seek clarification, but really if we are honest, there is no point. Daly's inclusion is no surprise of course. Iv spoken in another thread about her history of insane opinions. If CC had an ounce of sense she would back away from such fringe figures, but that is literally out of the question. She is rapidly identifying herself as all to similar in character and credibility.

    If i were a CC supporter i would be pleading, begging her at this stage, to back away from foreign policy. Her history of batty opinions and takes on global affairs, should be quarantined in a black box for the remainder of the campaign. I would also tell her that its not as if she will 'run out' of domestic things to debate, especially considering her opposition are both FFG.

    But there is no chance of that happening; its not a question of IF another damaging story emerges - simply a question of WHEN

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,049 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Connolly is now the main candidate in this election.

    Not a chance.

    She is still behind according to the bookies, and she would need a substantial lead over HH or Gavin as they will heavily transfer to each other.

    If she is neck and neck with either of them on the first count, she is done.

    There is a lot of hype about her online, but that is a echo chamber. Middle Ireland simply wont turn out in numbers to vote for her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,049 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    That worked wonders for Sean Gallagher, didnt it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,049 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    It shows terrible judgment on her part, and then to appeal the ruling of the Gardai? Madness.

    Tell me, would you be ok to have a Sex Offender released from prison and be employed by a school or a childcare center?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭MFPM


    This is an echo chamber too!

    CC is unlikely yo win because as you say she would need a very substantial lead over HH and while she could top the poll I'm not convinced it'll be a big enough gap. That said Gavin is so out-of his depth and broadly vaccuuos and HH is poor will their supporters be as motivated to vote as CC's - we'll see...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    She says there was no contact with Garda and definitely no appeal.

    The woman left of her own accord after 6 months.

    The conclusion of a Dáil committee was this woman was fit for work and Eamon O'Cuiv FF recommended her to Connolly.

    Are you keeping up with the story Mark?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    It's quite a leap to be trying to draw equivalence between "become acquainted with Republicans of different shades" to offering a job in Houses of Oireachtas to someone literally only just released from prison following an SCC conviction for firearms offences.

    Unless you are trying to infer that firearms convictions are normal and to be expected amongst "Republicans of different shades"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Its impossible to say without a poll. I am surprised we dont have one at this stage. I am assuming Connolly comes top with first prefs, based on the debate performance, and a general take on how the candidates are being received.

    Im also assuming Gavin comes last - not an unfair assessment in my opinion. He was clearly out of his depth.

    So it will be a question of how badly JG does, in relation to HH - and how far behind HH is from CC.

    But it is all based on assumptions at this point. I wouldnt pass too much heed on the bookies at the moment. But we need a relevant poll to see where everyone stands.

    I will say this, if Humphreys is ahead when we get a Poll - i think its over. In that case, i still see Gavin coming last, but with Humphreys leading in 1st prefs, even by a few dozen, CC is sunk.

    Unfortunitely the only polling data we have is grossly outdated. Again i suspect this just goes to show how below par the election is, when it comes to engaging both the media, and the electorate. We are all probable political anoraks but the general public are not. When i have spoken to any Non-Anoraks, their take, if they even bothered to watch the debate, is that they are all poor candidates.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,410 ✭✭✭jmcc


    This is turning out to be an entertaining election. It seems that FFG supporters thought that Connolly was sunk with the Journal article and now Eamon O'Cuiv is one of those who recommended the woman. The Clare Byrne show clip is worth watching. Far from being an election killer, this is now turning into something quite positive. This is some amazing spin and shows FF/FG to be quite cack-handed with their candidates.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/1002/1536435-presidential-campaign/

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Ex Ceann Comhairle Sean O'Fearghaill disputing Connollys version of events. He says the vetting only started after the ex Eirgi applicant started working.

    Taoiseach Michael Martin also criticising Connolly. Says the applicant Ni Shonnain was a member of an organisation (Eirgi) that everything to harm the peace process.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    No because FG are in no way implicated in this and it's Humphries Connolly has to outdo here. Also Martin will have no problem fecking O'Cuiv under the bus if it comes to that.



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