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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Seattle


    I reckon he'll go during the international break too. Win, lose or draw. But I think the thing that might complicate things is the compensation. There was a report a few weeks ago that said we'd have to give him 12m compensation if we sacked him now, but it drops to 4m in November. They may be able to negotiate 5/6m for him to go sooner. That's if that report is indeed accurate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭FrankN1


    Don't think he will be gone unless it's a 4.0 hammering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,261 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    It shouldn't factor into it. The longer he's there as manager, the more likelihood we will drop points and lose out on a European place costing more money in the long run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭GolfPar


    Assist for Rashford and good goal from Hojlund after a through ball from DeBruyne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,301 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Hopefully some club buys Rashford based on stats purely. He has been muck outside of making the pass for the goal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭FrankN1


    Score predictions for Saturday?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭Nalz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭Nalz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭kyleman


    Just saw goal. Assist by KDB but he still had 2 defenders to beat and brilliant finish.

    Followed up with a strong header for goal number 2.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Can United decide to not sell Hojlund at the end of the loan, or is it entirely up to Napoli.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,302 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    obligation if napoli qualify for CL next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,961 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    PSG with nearly half their first team out injured (including all of the front 3) go to Barcelona and deservedly win in the Champions league tonight.

    The idea that Enrique would want to leave that to come to the mess at United seems more than far-fetched!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭BenK


    Great to see Hojlund banging in a few goals. Napoli a good spot for out of favour United players.

    Wonder which unwanted United player will be a Ballon d'Or contender there next year!?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Isn't it mad what Hojlund can do with players who actually play the through ball to him or put in a good cross. He should never have had to lead our team at the age he was. Should have been a number 2 for 2 years and develop. Thats on the crap hierarchy. And apart from Bruno the service he got was shocking. Delighted for him anyway as he never gave less than 100%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    And pass up the opportunity to coach the likes of Maguire, Shaw, and Dalot? He'd be so foolish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Seattle


    If you're gonna be narrow minded and view things entirely through the lens of the quality of squad he currently manages, and completely ignore his bread and butter is competing in a farmer's league - then yeah you're right. Most people, probably yourself included, do like the easy life. But a lot of these top managers have a bit more about them and are wired differently. Many ultimately want to challenge themselves in the best competitions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    He wants a challenge in the best league not an impossible task being the mud guard for the bosses of the picked off carcass rapidly becoming becoming a cautionary tail of extreme American capitalism...also known as Man Utd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    If the best example of a top manager being "interested" in United is Poch when he was at PSG then that says it all. The examples of Tuchel and Inzaghi are relevant as managers who, while may have looked at the job, ultimately turned it down for United reasons. Exactly what I'm saying.

    Since SAF left it's a straight up fact that no current (at the time) top of the game manager was ever hired by United. Even using Mourinho as a counter to this is useful, because he was appointed in 2016 - 9 years ago!

    I stand by it, no manager who could be talked about in a best in class sense is going to be interested in the job.

    It's why names like Glasner and Iraola, Carrick and McKenna, even OGS again, are the names out there as potential Amorim replacements. No really currently successful manager would look twice at a job that Tuchel and Inzaghi looked at once and said "No thanks"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    Tuchel and Inzaghi said no to utd due to the club being a mess.

    Could you post a credible source for that?

    I can find reports that talk about it, but nothing credible. Just usual paper nonsense to get clicks.

    And talk or them either wanting a break or wanting to be loyal to the current club.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    No. of course I can't - I was using it as an illustrative narrative, they've been linked (in the press, just like Glasner has been) and not become manager.

    Although, I don't think Mitch Connors does be posting nonsense he thinks is untrue, but as in all football reporting or "rumours" nothing is ever really substantiated until it's official, and approaches to other managers are never confirmed really, so what you are asking is impossible to provide, and we can only go on what we see in the papers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    You could say the same for sesko, Mainoo (last season), Garnacho (annoying as he is); Rashford (equally annoying) and a bunch of others if you looked. United’s strikers beyond that have been weghorst, Ighalo and a busted Ronaldo not willing to change who was brought to the club as a weird apology from the glazers for the super league fiasco.

    Ronaldo , along with Di Maria , Pogba , Mata , Sanchez , Casemiro , Falcao , Schweinstager (and I’m sure more) were all signings done to give players wanting to move from their clubs a big payday or a move away. You don’t see the best clubs in Europe sign players because they want to move , you see them sign players they have scouted and identified as important improvements needed.

    United has been run like a muppet show since Ferguson left. Woodwards “we can do things only others can dream of” should have been the canary in the coalmine. Threw lots of stupid money at players and I’d argue got possibly the worst return at elite football.

    League winning , champions league challanging spending with results closer to mid table mediocrity. The crazy spending compensated for the clown show setup that became apparent to most footballers and managers only after they had their feet under the desk. Ah but if only we had a better manager was the red herring default choice of fans.. Yeh, even though it’s not their job , a better manager would somehow be able to move on unwanted players with stupid contracts and negotiate better value for new players….

    Maybe INEOs will be worse , only time will tell, but while they have started very badly, they effectively inherited a hospital pass basket club. Needed new training facilities, new stadium, move on players with stupid contracts and an entirely new football infrastructure to undo the throw sh*t at a wall mess, Woodward and the glazers left.

    I think of the glazers like Bertie ahern or politicians (like Brexiteers or Trump) who leave the countries in a mess, drop the mic and leave the next steward the responsibility to try to fix their carnage and take all the blame for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,874 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The fact we immediately repeated Hojlunds mis-handling with Sesko is beyond parody.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭thefa


    I’m delighted for Rasmus too, had no lack of effort for United and didn’t want to leave.

    I find it to be a bit too reactionary though in general. I’ve always thought the idea of him being starved of opportunities to be a cop out that was part of the issue but probably not even the majority. There were technical faults and his positioning was generally not to his strengths. Once he got into a funk with confidence, he couldn’t get out of it.

    It’s great to see him back scoring in Serie A and champions league which he’s done before. Not all players are made for the PL or the pressure cauldron that is United though. Time will tell if he gets another shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,302 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    this deal is done. hopefully he amounts to something but if not its a pittance anyway:

    Manchester United have now sealed and signed deal to bring in 17 year old Colombian talent Cristian Orozco.

    $1m transfer fee from Fortaleza in deal valid from summer 2026.

    #MUFC lawyers approved all the contracts, deal coordinated by lead scout Antonaccio.

    Here we go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Seattle


    You see, this is the difference.

    You're centering your points around 'illustrative narrative' (ie, stuff that's totally unsubstantiated) whereas I'm keeping to facts and logic, and make clear when I speculate (and attempt to weight it correctly).

    And by the way, if you were more versed in football, you would know that certain information can be relied upon with a high degree of confidence when it's reported by trusted sources. It doesn't always need an official announcement to be sure, like you say. That's just flat out wrong and a basic misunderstanding of how the football world works.

    So it's clear I'm wasting my time here. Maybe you'll change your tune in a few months time but unfortunately probably more likely to craft more illustrative narrative to show how you were right all along 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    I hope this is the begining of the end for Amorim but I really want us to move away from 3 atb.

    Multiple sources have told BBC Sport Glasner would be on a list of candidates to replace Ruben Amorim at Manchester United, although Old Trafford insiders insist they remain in support of their under-pressure manager and no candidate shortlists have been compiled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Your example yesterday was poch and was a totally incorrect example as it's nothing like the Enrique situation.

    If that is your facts you are pointing to they are just wrong.

    You say managers want to challenge themselves but the best managers in the world constantly take the best jobs they can get the path of least resistance to winning, pep has done this his whole career, Alonso waited for the Madrid job over offers from the premier league. Your "logic" that Enrique wouldn't try do the same doesn't stand up to anything we have seen in the past.

    Why do you think the poster will change his mind in a few months are you predicting Enrique to join united? Or some other very well regarded coach in a top job will join us?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    No, he's correct, he's "very well versed" in football you see.



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