Northern Ireland 2125?

The census question concerns membership of religion - you're making it out to be much more than it is.

There is no ethnic group in the 26 counties called Protestant. However, there are Irish people who may practise particular religions. The reality is that most people with protestant ancestors are fully integrated and a full part of Irish society. We do not have the sectarian divide that exists in the north. They mix, socialise and marry people in general society rather than operating as an isolated group apart from society. I'd guess that if most people looked back in their family trees, they'll find some people of protestant faith.

Culture today is very different to that 100 years ago for everyone. So maybe we've all been assimilated into modern culture!

Yes, there was some retribution and blood letting in revenge for the loss of Irish heritage and culture and the oppressions of the invaders long colonisation.

But no religion was ‘wiped out’.
That is historical lunacy that will gain you plaudits from belligerent Unionists and nobody else.

The Protestants in the South mostly got wiped out.

This is wrong. And a dangerous inflammatory lie.

I doubt you have read many books on Irish history as your opinions seem to be mostly based on received anti-Irish tropes and brick-bats but this is from a review of several of the books mentioned already.

Descendancy is a landmark contribution to the study of Irish Protestantism. David Fitzpatrick does great service in signposting how an error entered the historical record, carrying the language of genocide in its tow: ‘the [IRA] gunmen wanted to exterminate or drive away all Protestants’. Reports of a sudden ‘mass exodus’ of Protestants now appear baseless, and hard evidence of ethnic cleansing has not been produced.

*bolding mine

DESCENDANCY: IRISH PROTESTANT HISTORIES SINCE 1795 – History Ireland

This is an excellent example of the fallacy of waiting until we have a ‘united people’.

When fantasies can be continued to be invented even when the facts are put in front of you.

Downcow is right. You are so sectarian you don't even realise you are sectarian. A bit like the leader of the party you support saying there was no alternative to the pIRA campaign, which as we know was also sectarian. Sad to think so many years after the GFA there are still people around who cannot accept the pIRA campaign was wrong. And as pointed out to you already, there is little hope of reconciliation when you maintain your hardline views. You looked up the internet and came up with wooly reasons why the protestant % of the population went from 10% to 2 or 3%. Downcows said his father and his 10 siblings all vacated the 26 counties to the safety and security of NI - not one left for your list of reasons.

Did you ever condemn the murder of the protestant FG politician for Monaghan, Billy Fox, and the burning of his girlfriends home, during the troubles? Ever wonder what effect that had on protestants? You seem to be more concerned about the lettering on one particular road sign outside the village of Drum in Monaghan, ( Heather H's village) than by firebomb attacks in that area on a Presbyterian church (destroying the roof) and on another church hall in that area as recently as 1999. I wonder did she condemn them at the time ( I'm sure she would have wanted to) or was, as is more likely, she afraid to? Easier just to say she is a proud republican and this country has treated her very well. Yeah Heather, how much is your politician's pension again? And you want another couple of million for living in Aras for the next 7 years, and yet another pension after that?

Was talking recently to a friend who originally lived in Drum (not HH), and she said she has a dilemma : vote for HH or not? If she does not vote for her then CC may get in. Difficult choice.

Downcow wrote that "you just told us a few pages back that you wanted all parading, bonfires and flag flying stopped - that would be like me saying in ni we want all Gaelic football, Irish dancing and diddly Dee music stopped."

Downcow also wrote in the past that he can think of hundreds of memorials to pIRA terrorists from the troubles in N.I. now, but none to loyalist terrorists. Also there are football grounds and competitions and offices named after pIRA gunmen / bombers, but none name after loyalist ones.

Mind you, if all flag waving was to stop, would that include that clown from Kneecap waving his balaclava head around? And how would you ban tricolours from their concerts? Not practical. Like trying to shop their fans on occassion chanting uh ah up the 'ra. Sure some people think thats only a bit of fun too.

Do you think no flags should be flown from any government buildings anywhere in the world? And when you say no parades, are you aware that many July12th parades are no more offensive than St. Patricks day parades. Sometimes even less so because at many - if not all, I'm not sure - July 12th parades there is no political message visible at all. Unlike this St. Patricks day parade for example

And you want to ban all parades? No, just the ones you do not like.

I asked you question to clarify what you mean. "would that include that clown from Kneecap waving his balaclava head around? And how would you ban tricolours from their concerts?

Do you think no flags should be flown from any government buildings anywhere in the world? And when you say no parades, are you aware that many July12th parades are no more offensive than St. Patricks day parades. Sometimes even less so because at many - if not all, I'm not sure - July 12th parades there is no political message visible at all.

Why would you ban parades that have no visible political message in N.I. but you have nothing to say about other parades elsewhere, for example the one with Mary Lou McD marching behind an anti-British banner on St. Patricks day? Are you going to ban the hundreds of granite memorials to pIRA terrorists from the troubles in N.I. : there are no loyalist ones (apart from a mural somewhere which will fade in time)? Are you going to ban the GAA in N.I. because it is offensive too to some? Are you going to ban chanting glorifying paramilitary groups (uh ah Up the Ra)?

No, you only want to ban them others, and what they indulge in. And in the case of a U.I. give money to those who want to go to Scotland / England. ( their own confinscated money, from sale of their assets, or British taxpayers money probably).

What I was asking you was what do you define as flag waving, parades, memorials etc

And where: why should you want to ban an OO parade with no political message but you condone St. Paatricks parades like Mary Lou behind her political banner at this one?

Do your really want to ban all St. Patricks day parades for 20 years too? All Kneecap concerts?

No, just the stuff done by the other side.

Don't think that will go far enough tbh.

Still awaiting why wanting to ban ALL events etc is 'sectarian'.

There'll be tangents upon tangents upon deflections before we get that I expect.