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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,865 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Connolly has no record of achieving anything positive as far as I could discern.

    Her association with Ms. O’Doherty tells me where she is coming from.

    Seems more interested on affairs in foreign countries rathe her own country.

    I would contend that that propensity might not be a valued attribute for an aspiring potential President of Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    yes.That’s what she’s doing.


    https://www.ireland.ie/en/irish-aid/news-and-publications/latest-news/news-archive/ireland-provides-36-million-support-package-to-war-torn-ukraine/


    article here says that the Irish government has sent funds to the people of Ukraine who are suffering at the hands of Putin. That’s good that our government is doing that. That’s not the same as directly funding a war effort though. Now I wouldn’t necessarily agree with absolutely everything that Connolly says but her position is entirely legitimate. She’s a pacifist against war of every kind no matter who is waging the war. So like I say wouldn’t really agree with her on that but I don’t know enough about it and her opinion is perfectly valid and legitimate. Don’t see why anyone would have a problem with someone expressing pacifist views. Might be a bit idealistic and some might belittle it but I don’t think she’d give a feck about that.

    Have you a problem with someone expressing pacifist views?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Well you would say that because you’ve no intention of voting for her anyway. Which part of FFG are you supporting?


    With Gemma Doherty I believe she severed her links with her when she realised that Doherty was a fruitcake and Doherty has it in for her because she did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,618 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shock horror: Lifelong pacifist doesn't want more money spent on killing people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    He has not lost yet.

    It was one debate out of 3 and a few more weeks to go to press the flesh and engage with people . He's a nice man and people meeting him will find him personable .

    He needs to get his own message across as distinct from FF's , and how he can be a President for the entire country not just Dublin . Too Dublin centred in his replies last night as well as the lack of fluency .

    No reason at all for people to vote just FFG or CC . I would see a lot of transfers from Gavin and Connolly going to each other with Humphreys struggling as she is the only candidate who has been in government.

    That will pull her down amongst voters who don't appreciate that but will excuse Gavin as he is not a politician .

    Aside from the lack of any energy coming from her so far ... does she want it really or just stepping up for the party after losing MMcG ?

    Connolly is coming across well but she strikes me as so independent it might irritate more than endear .

    We shall see .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭MFPM


    But she didn't compare them did she?

    What she did say was....

    "They're absolutely championing the cause of the military-industrial complex in Germany, as a booster for the economy ... Seems to me, there are some parallels with the ’30s."

    Irrespective of how she does on 24 October, CC will continue to have a role in Irish public life because she has stood in elections multiple times, put forward a programme and got people to support her....unlike yourself and others here.

    It's amusing the extent to which the former MEPs live in the heads of many here, a bizzare obsession..



  • Site Banned Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    I've a feeling turnout will dip below 40%. I stand corrected but can't remember that for a Presidential Election before.

    You talk to work colleagues, friends and acquaintances, and never know how truthful they are being, but there appears to be a lot of apathy out there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Pat734


    Don't forget to add; that was his job and he got paid, a pension too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Desperate stuff from FFGers and other hangers on. They’re even more worried about Connolly than before after that debate last night and with good reason. By far the best choice for the role of President of those in the contest. Streets ahead of the other two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    How many of them were given the chance?

    The claim above was that he should be made President in recognition of his public service record. That record is far from unique.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Think that debate was focussing on capturing answers to some populist questions and trying to get some gotcha sound bites instead of the bread and butter President of Ireland diplomatic and statesperson roles.

    Hopefully the other TV debates will allow the candidates to speak and answer fully .

    Kieran Cuddihy interrupted too much .I don't mind that normally when it's all about politics and it's in the vein of interrogating the usual suspects . The Presidential candidates do not need haranguing on policies ,just to answer what their view of the role is and tell us what they can bring to it , in my view .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭MFPM


    It's also interesting the emphasis here by the anti Connolly brigade is reflected in the MSM today, the coverage in general agrees that CC won the debate and has a level of momentum. However, there is an insidious element to much of the coverage - reviews go into great detail about CC and her 'controversial positions', in part, that's because she actually has something to say the other two are largely vacuous. However it's also because she dares to move from the centrist line demanded by the IT and Indo and they don't want her to win. They do their bit with disingenuous headlines but they need Gavin and HH to step up in the debates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It's mad to see how far people have to go in lying about Connolly to find things to complain about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I have a problem with one particular public servant being singled out for recognition because he happens to be mates with the Taoiseach while all the others get shat on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    It’s really down to the electorate, the young team and the intelligent people who know the time of day and aren’t weak of mind and easily spooked; to come out en masse and support her as hands down the best candidate.

    Will be interesting what the first poll says, the Irish Times and Indo et al will soften their nonsense if they discover that she might win. They don’t like that she has taken on SF support but they might have to change their stance against them as well if SF is leading the next government. They’ll know their place and will get back in their box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I asked that question two months ago - provide me with a list of Connolly's positive actions. The list remains empty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Oh, it's jealousy and envy and good old fashioned Irish begrudgery then. Understand that.

    As a former public servant, I am proud to get the chance to vote for an excellent public servant for President, I am not upset by missing out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭MFPM


    As a current public servant, I am proud to get the chance to vote for an excellent public servant for President too, Catherine Connolly! The opportunism of Gavin and FF merit no reward and on the evidence to date, it seems they won't get any.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,976 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    The second thing to note is that the Tánaiste is telling me the EPF has given €5.6 billion in military assistance. It is a misnomer to call this a peace facility. Can one imagine if we used even a fraction of that fund to bring peace in the world and to help the war to stop?

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2024-01-23/59/

    She is clearly saying that the military aid should not have been provided. She had no concern for the people of Mariupol or Bucha. How exactly does she think the money should be spent to stop the war. Bribe the Russians, offer a bounty for Russians to desert?

    In February of this year she was criticised the use of EU funds to help Ukraine and started ranting about the military-industrial complex, when she said that England and France could not be trusted. I am no admirer of England, but the British government have acted well in Ukraine, so you cannot call them out on this.

    She cries crocodile tears about "The Ukraine", but opposes anyone who tries to do anything substantial to help them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    Just a few - and mostly as an independent:

    First woman to hold leas cheann comhairle, mayor of Galway, over two decades to Galway City Council, ran as an independent for president of ireland, and secured support of six parties (she didn't ask for their backing), promoted the Irish language and Gaeltacht, championed neutrality, human rights, and social justice.

    Lets not forget the outstanding work on mother and baby homes report…

    etc.

    Yep, pretty empty list. 🙄

    Now you do HH and JG…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    This question was already answered. Do keep up.


    She’s a pacifist and while I’m not sure I agree entirely with her on that issue her position is on Pacifist grounds. It’s an entirely legitimate stance and I don’t care and I’m sure she doesn’t care if the likes of you have a problem with her on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,618 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Outstanding lifelong career fulfilling the duties of an opposition TD, holding the government of the day to account and raising important issues.

    The FF & FG fanboys and girls hate that and see no value in it. But it is, of course, a vital part of any republic and democracy.

    They can call themselves republicans but are they really when they hold those autocratic values?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Referenced the thirties? Why? Because when I look at the thirties I see only ONE party(two, if one includes Mussolini's Italy) that was engaged in a serious military build up and others that enaged in a tardy game of catch-up in military spending. So, to repeat, what lessons is she intending that we learn from that decade? If she is engaging in teaching a lesson, then she's learned the wrong one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,976 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Who is lying? Are you stating that Connolly agrees with Germany providing anti aircraft defence to Ukraine, and replacing it in Germany?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Here we go again. Riddle me this….WHO was engaging on an aggressive drive of military spending in the thirties in Europe and who had to hurry to catch up when war became inevitable?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,976 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    She stated a falsehood. Germany did not sit down and decide that the best way to boost the economy was the "military-industrial complex", they realised that more military spending was needed owing to Russia and the most that will have happened is that someone somewhere noted that the money spent would at least provide jobs. That a person continually speaking such falsehoods can get elected is a sad reflection on the Irish electorate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Virgin media's debate yesterday had a viewership of 650k, down from their 2018 debate of 738k and 2018 itself was a low turnout election so not a great sign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Here we go again. Do you make a diffentiation between those who are 'waging' a war and those defending themselves because there can only be one on either side. Do you, and does Connolly, believe that victims have a right to defend themselves? Because a pacifism that doesn't believe it is on a hiding to nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,976 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    So what happens when she is President and she wants the Gardai to get rid of their water cannon and firearms and just let the gurriers loot O'Connell Street and go around raping women?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    So she thinks that when Rizzian soldiers attack Ukrainian soldiers that they shouldn't fire back? That they should retreat and surrender more of their country and its inhabitants to the Putinist thugs?



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