2025 Ryder Cup, Bethpage, NY.

100% this.

E.g. Shane Lowry shot 64 & finished 3,3,3,3 on the last 4 holes to 'only' secure a 1/2 point for Europe in his singles match to retain this Ryder Cup, before Hatton & then McIntyre went on to win it outright.

Yet, if Shane had missed just 1 putt in those last 4 holes , or the European lads hadn't closed out their matches behind him, all we would have heard was this "catastrophic collapse" bs from the usual naysayers.

Something like 8 of the 11 singles matches went down 18, that's not even nearly a collapse, it's just a riveting conclusion to a really exciting, exhausting, exilerating, nerve testing & winning Ryder Cup performance in a raucous, rowdy venue away from home by team Europe 🇪🇺

Great sport, a great tournament & a great win by Europe too!!!

The main premise of the video is that Captain's picks are so important. Europe going from 3 to 6 Captain's picks is a good move in that it allows more leeway (if it is ever needed, but it's rarely needed for Europe) but I think the whole idea that picking this team is some kind of brilliance from the Captain, or involves great analytics, is overblown. The European team, be it 3 or 6 picks, typically picks itself. Our 12 golfers comprised of the top 11 ranked golfers and John Rahm, who for obvious reasons, isn't ranked as high as he once was. The idea that Matt Wallace, Harry Hall et al might have been been considered above Rahm or the other selections… I'm not really buying that myself, I don't think many of them were good enough for a pick.

I would concede that it's much more important on the US side, they have some serious decisions to be made for their picks due to the quantity of top golfers available.

Too many people have drank the McGinly kool aid, I think. The most impressive feet by any European Captain is him being able to hype it up ad nauseum and making a living from it for the past decade.

Anyway, great to get the European win. If arguing the level of input Captains have is top of my list, it's not a bad place to be.

If I posted it here, the site might need a solicitor. He lived not a million miles from where I am…lots of stories did the rounds about him albeit it was over 10 years ago.

As was said above, Luke Donald made the job look easy. What a calm, competent, classy guy. Wouldn’t mind him up in the Park.

Clearly a boards employee sent to increase traffic.

Who would you rather watch..Shane with his heart firmly on his sleeve or the once famous Davis Love the 3rd………who walked around the course as if he had a driver shaft stuck up his ho*e !!

Guaranteed that no player is going to want to be a sub either, imagine being a player there during the famous wins etc. but didn't take part. Would they get a uniform, be at all the preparations, meals, interviews etc., or just sat in the clubhouse doing stretching exercises, or worse just sitting at home waiting for a last minute call.

On the very rare occasion that it's used, the envelope solutions seems to be the least worst.

Even if Bradley feels strongly about the envelope rule it just shows a complete lack of class to bring it up afterward. He's just throwing it out to create noise and deflect attention from the stuff he was in control of. All he needs to do is congratulate the victors and bring the envelope thing up privately in his debrief with the PGA. He's extremely unlikable.

I think this slightly misses the point FixdePitchmark was trying to make. He predicted an early finish based on the lead Europe had going into the singles, quite reasonable. But there is no need to play out every single match to a finish once a team has reached 14.5 points. This is how most GI interclub matches are conducted - matches are called in once the winning team has reached the winning score. Last night the Burns-McIntyre match lost all meaning once Hatton had got Europe to 14.5 points. They should have been called in after 17. It's a team competition.