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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,894 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    1: isn't it Moldova?

    2: what has this got to do with the presidential election here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭pureza


    Pridnestrovia has a population of ethnic Russians and Russiaphiles that broke away from Moldova in Yeltsin’s time not Putin’s

    It does have a Russian army garrison yes whose soldiers funnily enough fly home through Chisinau

    They used go through Odessa but not since the war

    It’s an unrecognised country in of itself and completely different to the circumstances in Eastern Ukraine or Crimea in the sense that no subterfuge was required


    None of this is really or should be relevant to the presidential election anyway except for CC either dragging it up or more so the case now the media being bored

    The genie is out of the bottle though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    It has to do with a presidential candidate who has blamed USA, Nato, EU and even Ukraine for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The others are in a similar position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,610 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I doubt if the population of Drum got Heather Humphries elected as a TD. She must have far wider appeal. Referencing its religious make up reeks of bigotry.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    You're asking her to be a populist politician, rather than a principled honest direct politician.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Absolutely not - Im asking her to be a proper lefty. We could subsitute the words social democrat, or socialist. Depending on your flavour of Left Wing politics, these words could be 'too much' or 'not enough'.

    Im just asking for her to concentrate on domestic matters. Yes i know the presidency has little if any real effect on these - but she could be a character that the left (be they SF, the Soc Dems, Labour, PbP, et al) can all get behind. And it could have a positive effect as the term of this Dail Continues, and we move toward the next elections (Local, European, General)

    For me having a grand unified Left Wing Presidential Candidate, could have been the first step in creating a more broad political alliance. And for us to have a real chance of breaking the FFG duopoly on Government in this country. If these groupings started co-operating, and stopped competing with each other, we have a serious shot.

    But none of these positives are possible with CC running around raising contentious topics. This campaign seems destined to divide the left further, rather than bring it together.

    I said it to you in my previous post - i want her to be a politician. Leftwing Activists have crowds cheering for them at rallys, but Leftwing politicians, can WIN ELECTIONS.

    We will see what happens in tomorrows debate, but honestly i worry she does more damage during that. The journalists will bait her, and ask questions. That is their job, they will raise the Germany comments, the EU, NATO, America, Russia! She has to show her calibre and avoid setting anymore fires, and she should walk her positions back slightly. Just some nuance could go a long way.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I find this type of comment so frustrating, RE 'principled honest direct Politicians'

    Corbyn was principled, honest and direct. And his sincerely held beliefs led the Torys to win a landslide, and drag the UK out of the EU, at a time when the public would have voted Remain by LANDSLIDE, in a second referendum.

    Because Corbyn is NOT a politician, he is an activist. And sadly, it would appear that CC roughly the same.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,871 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Connolly's principles are bogus.

    Ireland's political, economic and defensive integrity, and future reunification, are far too far down her list of priorities at the best of times, but especially for a person who aspires to be head of state and keeper of the Constitution.

    Her utterances this week on several matters have been almost farcical.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,644 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Im just asking for her to concentrate on domestic matters.

    But like I was saying the other day, it's the international stuff she seems to be most invested in, I don't know any domestic issues that she has really 'made her own'. If she just started spouting leftie pabulum about housing, cost of living etc. I doubt that would have much impact; media wouldn't be much interested for a start…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    But like I was saying the other day, it's the international stuff she seems to be most invested in

    And being asked about from the get go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Again i just think that its becoming clear she is the wrong candidate.

    As to what you call 'lefty Pabulum' - i disagree that it would have no impact

    We are about to have a harsh budget, during an ongoing cost of living crisis. Having had FFG in cooperation for a decade (since confidence and demand), its easily apparent that they have done sweet FA to tackle housing. And its clear that the one off payments, were nothing short of governmental bribery. The moment they won the election it all ended. Where is the much discussed 'Slainte Care'? How is that going?

    The correct Left wing candidate could have made a serious impact with the above as a backdrop. The fact that, as you say, she is more invested in foreign policy matters, and contentious ones at that - makes it all the more apparent that she was the wrong candidate.

    The left backed the wrong horse, its simple as that -

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,738 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    TBH that's the role of the Taoiseach not the President. The President does the glad-hands stuff on state visits, never discusses anything to do with policy. (our non-executive President - other countries which have an executive president then it is their role)

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Oh right, so Brexit is Corbyn's fault, and not, say, David Cameron who came up with the genius idea of a referendum, or Farage, who, with support from the BBC and the Daily Mail (with it's long history of supporting Nazis), managed to convince people that those brown folks over there were the problem.

    In case you haven't noticed, they got their nice, warm, cuddly populist politician in charge now having got rid of Corbyn, and he's doing a great job of handing control of the country over to Farage.

    Be careful what you wish for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    We are not going to have a harsh budget. Benefits will be increased by more than inflation, tax allowances will at least be indexed, student fees will be reduced. There will be additional infrastructure investment. While some people may be difficulties, there is no a general cost of living crisis, wages increased 5.5% last year when inflation was 2.1%.

    If you define good as harsh, then you will have a miserable life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Soft Power matters too. Trump seems very thin skinned and some political smooching is necessary to stay in his good books. We saw that with the state visit in the UK recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    There's no cost of living crisis. Did you really say that 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    I said there is no general cost of living crisis. There is too much Béal bocht in what are actually reasonable times.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    We have some of the highest energy prices in Europe because FF and FG couldn't care less how much money the energy companies make, same with supermarkets, insurance etc etc

    Rents going out of control with the Govt basically telling landlords they can increase them in the latest attempt to be seeing to do something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    As difficult as it is for you to accept. Corbyn walked labour into the sea during the 2019 election. Which was the last election before brexit, where the prospect of a second referendum seemed possible.

    Rather than get out there, and highlight the pivotal moment in history, that the UK faced - and that this was britains ONLY chance to avoid the Iceberg

    • Corbyn ran on the platform of negotiating his left wing brexit, and had to be dragged into committing to a second referendum at the 11th hour.
    • because Corbyn is a closet Euroskeptic (a Bennite), the most he could come up with was that in a second ref, he would 'remain neutral'
    • Vast nationalization of a tonne of industries, despite it not being viable according to economists of the day
    • He then spent the election campaign unable to avoid talking about Gaza and Palestine, and unwilling, politically, to fully walk back positive things he had stated about Hamas and Hezbollah

    And he got trounced.

    Honestly il just leave it there, because i dont think i can get through to the modern Day Activist class of left winger.

    All i can say is that you can lose an election, but be proud of how you conducted yourself. You stood for your principles, and you remain proud. And well done, i congratulate you!

    But you still lost. The other guy won. Always remember that.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,992 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    So much of this is wrong or misleading. Corbyn first forced the Tories to go running to form a coalition with the DUP after a GE then lost heavily to Johnson after the Labour Party pushed him to be more pro Europe than he was. The UK was out of Europe before any Corbyn GE so no way it could have led to the UK leaving the EU.

    Also a second referendum was pure and utter fantasy. It was never even close to happening and had little support even from pro EU people. It is also a pure lie to suggest a second referendum would win by a "LANDSLIDE".

    Corbyn was no more or less an activist than Michael D who just won 2 presidential elections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    We also have some of the highest wages in Europe, I pay less for my car insurance than I did 30 years ago, and most people own their own houses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    You stated in your original laughable comment that there's no cost living crisis, that the budget would have reduced taxation and reduction student fees

    It's already been confirmed that there will be neither of the 2, fees are going up from last year and will be no reduction in tax rates. An extra €450 on your energy bills plus whatever % the energy companies have decided they want to fleece people with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    • Student Fees are being reduced by 500 euro, from the previous temporary reduction of 1000 euro. Therefore NET - fees are up by 500 euro
    • The cost of living crisis has continued, adding further strain on the poorest of our society. FFG have acknowledged this, freely. And decided that they will offer ZERO one off payments this year.
    • FFG have also acknowledged that energy prices are still increasing, and after giving everyone 2 x 125 euro energy credits last year - they believe the best course of action, is to give ZERO energy credits this year

    We can get into the weeds on this but honestly. The cost of living crisis is well underway, although some in society are not feeling it. Im happy for people who fall into this catagory, but be advised; Those outside this bracked, on lower incomes, are feeling the pinch increase year on year.

    Im not going to get into name calling- i do not have a miserable life - but i do have leaving certificate maths. Please review the budget previews above, which have all been published and discussed. If you do not find them harsh, then i honestly dont know what else to say

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,610 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    There is a particular problem with housing, specifically in the wider Dublin area. Then many countries have a housing problem, but that's not any good to those that in need. Yes, a lot of good things in this country. Don't agree that the country is gone to the dogs. But housing is a real problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    OK id ask you to look up the details on this - the UK formally left the EU in January 2020 - right before covid - the BJ withdrawal agreement on future trade came in the following year

    The election that cemented brexit, and prevented a second referendum was December 2019 - the election that Corbyn lost utterly - his last one as leader of the Labour party

    The second referendum could have occured if Labour had won that election - as polling data at the time suggested Remain would win by as much as 60% - and it was (finally) on labours 2019 election manifesto

    The election you are speaking of was the 2017 election - 2 years prior

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Housing is FF and FGs number 1 priority

    Such a priority that they lied about numbers to get re-elected



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    The 2009 budget was harsh, a budget that increases expenditure is not harsh, it is normal.



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